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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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I have a 68 Coupe that still has the original York and Tecumseh air conditioner. Currently not working but i want to get it working again because the girlfriend is starting to complain (you know how it is fellas gotta keep her happy

I remember a while back my mechanic saying something like cars of this year used a different type of cooling liquid...is it still freon or no?

My question is should i make an effort to get the original compressor working again or is there a more modern unit that would work more efficiently and yet still bolt onto my stock engine?
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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A Sanden Compressor Kit from NPD is 389.00 Comes with everything needed to make the compresor work in your car.
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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Go new on everything.It will be expensive,I hope the girlfreind is hot.lol
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:21 PM
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yes a car before some year im not sure when used something other than freon ill have to double check but ill get back to you
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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1994 cars switch from r12 to r134a

pre '94 = r12
which is very hard to find
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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They make alternatives to R12 now that claim to be more effective than the original stuff (which was more effective than the modern R134a used today), how well they actually work I don't know however. Freeze12 is the name I can think of off the top of my head.

That said, a conversion to a sanden system is just fine, they are more efficient and don't sap quite as much power as the original stuff.
Old Aug 30, 2008 | 06:22 AM
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Yes its r12 they stopped making it and what they sell it reused and pricey last time i checked the price it was 100 a 12 oz can and you need a license to buy it.Most cars use 3 can at least or more.The r134a is newer anyone can buy it and its cheaper.Have a r134a conversion done on it and maybe a light window tinting.
Old Aug 30, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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I'm in a similar situation. All original components are still there except the compressor and clutch. There is no telling how long it's been since the A/C has been run. All sorts of concerns about the condition of the rest of the components. Old system most likely was R12, so other stuff may have to be swapped to go to R134. I've been told you have to flush all the old oil(?)/refrigerant(?)out of the system b/c it's not compatible with the new, possible rust issues. New compressor requires new filter/drier. When doing my price comparison I included the +/-$300(?)cost of the R12 over the cheaper R134, and having to take it to a shop to have the work done. I quickly blew through the $895 complete(?) kit I found online.

All the advice I've been given so far has been to buy a new, complete kit. Otherwise I will probably wind up chasing problems all the way through the system, and end up spending more buying a component at a time.

For comparison, check out Vintage Auto Air, or Classic Auto Air, or Nostalgic Auto Air.

Good luck.
Old Sep 1, 2008 | 02:16 AM
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The newer systems use less horse power to run. That will be a savings over time. And you will be able to recharge a new system by yourself with a kit from yout local parts place.
Th R12 is not being produced because os enviromental issues.
Old Sep 1, 2008 | 02:36 AM
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I have been researching this for the last few weeks. The Sanden is the way to go but the price is only $325 if you get it off of ebay right now and that includes shipping. They will send you everything you need but the drier and you can get that at your local parts store. Yes, if you old system is attachec take it and your kit to a service shop and have them evacuate your old system and flush it with denatured alcohol. Then break your old system apart and install the new compressor and drier then have them evacuate the system and check for leaks. If no leaks have them do the normal refill service. It should cost less then $100 for everything if you tell the guy up front what you want to do.



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