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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Default Stopping power: CSRP vs. SSBC

Both are obviously high quality with great support. Im not really interested in a service comparison etc.

Just curious about a direct shootout when it comes to stopping power for CSRP vs. the $800 dollar SSBC manual disc? I am new to brakes, so I will miss the obvious when looking at pics of the different kits etc. Also, I have not driven a classic car in the type of terrain here, so I dont know how my current manual drums or regular discs will hold up when it comes to fading.

I live in a mountainy, hilly sort of area so fade is what I am concerned about. There are several great roads around here (Blueridge Parkway) with long (7 miles etc) of down hill, windy, constant braking decents out of the mountains. Oh, did I mention the cliffs and several hundred foot drop offs if your brakes fail?

Thanks for being patient if my newbie-ness is too much. I don't know much about fade, but don't want to find out the hard way.
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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if your worried about overheating them, go ahead and get some 13 inch brakes ftw
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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Again, sorry for ignorance...

I wonder what has a bigger effect on heat dissipation in a downhill environment: a larger rotor or a std rotor but drilled and slotted?

SSBC has these now, only about a $150 upgrade (over plane jane rotors):

http://www.ssbrakes.com/products/det...tang&year=1965
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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If you going drilled, be aware of warping. Good scoop here:
http://www.carbibles.com/brake_bible.html
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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I am a fan of slotted rotors, not drilled. I have heard and seen that drilled can crack between holes. no matter what I would not go manual disc, from what i have heard it takes a lot more effort to operate because of the surface area of the piston on a caliper compaired to what a drum has. As far as which company is better, I cant really answer. I have the older CSRP, single piston caliper brakes and haven't ever gotten to use them yet.
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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I have the manual SSBC setup with the gas slotted rotors. Im really happy with them they work very well.

Granted you should never ride the brakes for extended periods of steep grade downhills...that's just not smart use a lower gear and coast.

I have done some 75 or 80 mph to rapid 0 stops before and have been really impressed with their performance.

I dont feel there is a need for power brakes what so ever
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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I also have OE KH-style CSRP front discs on my 67fb and I think they work just fine. After installation, I took the car out on a "cruise" (read: spirited run) through some county back roads and I experienced zero fade problems.

When it comes down to it, the larger SSBC 4-piston brake kit will have greater stopping power and fade resistance, but I'm of the opinion that the OE 4-piston setup is more than adequate for most driving conditions. They also have the added advantage of fitting inside my 14" wheels, unlike the SSBC setup.
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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Thanks guys,

Ok, slotted but not drilled is what I will go with. I had intended to jump to 15" wheels, so I think Ill go with SSBC (not sure is CSRP offers drilled at this time).
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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Slotted is really overkill for the street as well. You're really not going to be running into fade issues unless you're doing some extremely hard driving. If so, you're better off with a different pad compound.

That slotted rotor is basically acting like a cheese grater to your brake pads. And when it comes time to replace the pads and turn the rotors, guess what? You can't turn slotted rotors. Stick with standard vented rotors and you'll be fine, unless you plan on tracking the car.
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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I've driven the Blue Ridge Parkway a number of times and, as stated already above, don't use your brakes.. instead use a lower gear. Hit your brakes occasionally when/if needed and you'll be fine with disks or drums.

btw.. anyone on the east coast who likes outdoor forest and mountain scenery should definitely drive the Blue Ridge Parkway sometime. Spectacular view and beautiful drive.

This I think would make a sweet group ride sometime.



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