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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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Well my son and I recently purchased a 351C 4v CJ motor. The guy we bought it from said that he got it from a 72 Torino. He also referred to it as a "virgin motor" saying that it was never rebuilt. So I know we need to get it machined. Does anyone know of a good machine shop in the Houston/Katy area that does Clevelands? But I also know that there are fewer parts available for the Clevelands. So what would y'all recommend for upgrades? We would like it to be streetable but we will take it to the track every once in awhile. We don't EVER want t lose to a ricer.
Old Dec 23, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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My stroker is very streetable (since it is of course in a street car )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vg6SVR-VaA

also runs a best so far of 11.5 n/a through an AOD and gets 13-15 MPG when I drive it to work

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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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http://www.gg-performance.com/

These guy's are great and reasonably priced. Maybe a little far from you but well worth it.
Old Dec 23, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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What is your budget?
$2k or $10k?
What you are willing and able to spend will make a big difference as to what is practical for a performance engine build.

If you want the most bang for your buck...
Keep your stock crank, polish it up and reuse it.
Bore .020 or .030 over.
Spend money on your heads, keep the stock ones, buy new valves, quality springs, retainers, roller rockers.
Use a flat tappet cam.

Use a parker funnel web intake and tongues for your 4V heads... This is the only thing I would use running 4V heads on the street. http://parkerracing.com.au/funnelweb.html.

Top it off with a 650+ CFM carb.

If you have some money to burn...
Stroke it.
Buy CHI 3V heads and manifold. http://www.chiheads.com/
Consider a roller cam.
Spend some money on the ignition.
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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We are hoping to keep it under 5K. I suppose the first thing would be to take it to the machine shop and make certain that there is no big defects. We will start taking it apart this weekend and I will post pics.
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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here are some pics as it sits now.

The engine (sorry....camera phone image)


Cast code


Front of engine


The transmission that came with the engine (anyone looking for an FMX?)
Old Jan 22, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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Well, we finally disassembled the engine. We will be taking it to the machine shop this week. I think we will just have them do the block and the heads. We will purchase a stroker kit for the rotating assembly. Here are some pics.

Intake manifold removed. Uh oh, someones been in the cookie jar. Where did the pushrods go? So much for being a "virgin" motor!


I guess the oil wasn't changed very often by the PO.


The oil pickup screen looks kinda scary.



By the way these pistons look scraped, someone has definately been in this engine before.


Cylinder
Old Jan 22, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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The definition of virgin can mean different things to different people. However my definition of virgin is that the cylinders have not been over bored yeah. So measure them and see if they have been bored or not.
Old Jan 22, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Just pestering you again... But...

Make sure you look at the Parker manifolds, I know the glue in tongues look a little weird, but it seems to be a real solution to making a 4V head into something special.

http://parkerracing.com.au/funnelweb.html
Old Jan 22, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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how big are you going to stroke it?



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