Cleveland VS. Windsor
If you are asking about 351 motors:
Completely different blocks
Completely different heads
It is a better question to ask what's the same between the 351c and ther 351w?
That answer is:
The displacement
The carb mounting pad
The motor mount
The tranny bolt pattern
Completely different blocks
Completely different heads
It is a better question to ask what's the same between the 351c and ther 351w?
That answer is:
The displacement
The carb mounting pad
The motor mount
The tranny bolt pattern
Is one a big block, one a small block???
My dad and I are gonna pick up a motor to mess around with and we're more used to small block Chevys. We're just now getting into the Ford scene, and I must say it's SWEET!
Here is a really good article about swapping a 351 into an early mustang, someone else posted this up and I made a PDF of it because it seems to go into a lot of detail about what has to be done. Not sure if that's what you're looking for, but it also goes into the differences a little.
http://www.mustangsandmore.com/ubb/D...ngineSwap.html
http://www.mustangsandmore.com/ubb/D...ngineSwap.html
Both are small blocks. They were named after the plants where they were built. The Windsor is considered a 90* V family engine (289, 302, 351W) while the Cleveland is a Cleveland family motor (351C, 351M, 400). They are really two totally different motors with a few parts they will interchange.
I think you need to approach your question from a different angle. Try posting what you want to use the engine for and in what chassis.
One of the downsides of Ford engines versus Chevies is lack of parts interchangibility. On an SBC there are many parts from an engine 40 years older and 100 cubic inches smaller that will interchange. In the Ford engine families it is much more convoluted.
You will need to know what transmission you wish to use and what chassis it's going in as well as what it will be used for.
The true Cleveland engines were only built for four or five years. They were great for their time with superior breathing capabilities. Now the Windsor family has the breathing and strength capability that was exclusive to the Cleveland at the time.
The only real need for a true Cleveland engine these days is for that pristine restoration of a car that originally had a Cleveland egine from the factory.
My $0.02,
One of the downsides of Ford engines versus Chevies is lack of parts interchangibility. On an SBC there are many parts from an engine 40 years older and 100 cubic inches smaller that will interchange. In the Ford engine families it is much more convoluted.
You will need to know what transmission you wish to use and what chassis it's going in as well as what it will be used for.
The true Cleveland engines were only built for four or five years. They were great for their time with superior breathing capabilities. Now the Windsor family has the breathing and strength capability that was exclusive to the Cleveland at the time.
The only real need for a true Cleveland engine these days is for that pristine restoration of a car that originally had a Cleveland egine from the factory.
My $0.02,


