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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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I am looking at picking up a new ignition system, mainly because my car didn't come with one. what do I need to properly run a MSD setup? I am looking at the entire system, from battery to starter.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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If you are replacing the distributor also, get an MSD distributor with a magnetic trigger, 6series MSD box, and Blaster 2 coil. Use the mag trigger (green and purple) wires to trigger the box and you can then use the white wire as an anti-theft by runing it to a hidden toggle switch with the other side to ground. When the wire is grounded, the box will not fire.

If you are using your existing distributor, use the white wire in the MSD box as the trigger from the distributor. Here are the MSD instructions. Use the diagrams in the back to plan your system. There are many options:

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...s/msd-6200.pdf
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Yes I will be running an MSD dist. I will plan on getting one with a magnetic trigger-What's that advantage of that and what does it do? Is it for anti theft? What about the ones with the vacuum advance? I was planning on the 6AL2 box but not sure what coil. Blaster 2 sounds good. So I don't need a starter solenoid? I assume that is not needed with the 6AL2 box and coil. I assume I will do something like on page 11. Those instructions are great!

Sorry for all the questions but I've never dealt with a ground up ignition system before.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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You will still need your starter solenoid to power the starter during start up and where the + battery terminal connects is a great place to connect the heavy red wire from the MSD. The advantage of a magnetic pick up is simply no mechanical wear parts. The pick up can fail, but it is unusual and not a normal maintenance item.

For a street driven car, I would definitely use vacuum advance. It allows you to run more vacuum at cruise improving your gas mileage and when you step on the gas, the advance is reduced keeping you in the power curve with no detonation.

Assuming you have a 302 non-roller cam engine, I would use this one:

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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I'm actually planning on this engine. I think the same MSD iginition system will work with this one too. Any thoughts about this motor? It does come with an MSD dist.


408/410 Street Crate Engine - $7,875.00

Horsepower: 515 hp
Torque: 500 ft/lbs
Block: Fully Machined and Prepped Production Block
Crankshaft: Scat or Eagle Cast Steel Crankshaft
Stroke: 4.000”
Connecting Rods: Scat or Eagle I-Beam 6.200"
Pistons: SRP or Probe Forged
Timing Chain: Ford Motorsport Double Roller
Camshaft: Comp Cams Custom Grind Hydraulic Roller
Lifters: Ford Motorsport Hydraulic Roller
Cylinder Heads: Brodix Track 1 or AFR 185
Valves: Manley 2.02/1.6
Rocker Arms: Scorpion 1.6 Roller
Intake: Edelbrock Performer RPM
Waterpump: Edelbrock Aluminum
Carburetor: Quick Fuel 780cfm
Valve Covers: Keith Craft Logo w/Breathers and PCV Valve
Wire Looms: Smoothie
Oil Pump: Melling High Volume
Oil Pan: Production Style Replacement
Balancer: Professional Products
Ignition: MSD Distributor w/Keith Craft Logo Moroso Plug Wires
Gaskets: Felpro
Fasteners: ARP
Compression: 10:01
Fuel: Premium Unleaded Only
Firing Order: 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
Timing: 35 Degrees @ Full Advance
Oil: 10w-30 or 40 Non-Synthetic for Break-In
Max RPM: 6250
Dyno: Complete Test and Tune on SF902 Dyno
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Wow, that is an excellent price for that engine. Who sells it?
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Oh, I see it is this Keith Craft:

Old Feb 21, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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Yeah, I found it at their ebay store for 7195.00. I really like it, especially for the price.

So what about a voltage regulator. Do I need that?

Here's what I have so far:

1. MSD Box
2. MSD Blaster 2 coil
3. Starter solenoid
4. Battery Cable kit
5. Dist will come with motor
6. cut-off switch (more for anti-theft)
7. ????
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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Get an alternator that doesn't require a voltage regularator. Either a 3g or one-wire. I like one wire alternators and my brand of choice is Powermaster. I've used them on almost every project and never had a problem. Some people don't like them as they think their battery won't charge below about 1500 rpm. Not true. When you start the car, you have to get it to about 1500 one time and it will start charging and not stop below that rpm until you turn the car off. Anyway, here is one with a chrome case on my 66:



You don't need the voltage regulator and wiring is as simple as running an 8 guage wire to the + battery terminal on the solenoid. You will also need a starter and I would again go with a mini-starter from Powermaster. I'll give you part numbers if you need them.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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how much is the alt?



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