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Old May 27, 2009 | 01:10 AM
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Hey everyone. New guy here. I have a 71 mach 1 that I would like to build a 408C stroker for. I have 4V closed chamber heads. I hate to be a copy cat but if ain't broke don't fix it. That being said, I'm curious if anyone has a setup that is totally streetable making in the 500's hp/tq, roller cammed with stock 4V heads (just mean cast iron not aftermarket as I figure they'll need to be worked some) that they can offer up. I've been told these power figures can easily be reached and be streetable but alas those that have said so have no actual setup (ie. specific cam, intake, carb etc.) to speak of. I know this is a tall order but I'm looking for someone with proven results rather than just trusting something my local speed shop says will work. Hope I'm not asking too much. Thanks in advance for the help.
Old May 27, 2009 | 03:41 AM
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www.dodgestang.com he is running a cleve stroker iirc somewhere around that level with 4v heads

he will probably be along his user id here is Dodgestang
Old May 27, 2009 | 07:13 AM
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I assume you mean 500 flywheel.

Shouldn't be too hard


* 351 Cleveland stroked out to 410 Cubes (.040 block so its a 410 (.030 is a 408))
* Custom Ed Curtis Cam .62/.63 lift range, solid lifters
* Forged backcut super lights crank, forged h beams, Diamond pistons, windage tray, 8 quart pan
* 4v open heads porting on the exhaust, strew in studs, stainless one piece valves, 1.73 crane gold rollers
* Ford power train long tube headers
* Strip Dommy intake, 1 inch spacer
* Biggs Stage 5 750 CFM carb
* Manual steering/brakes
* AOD Transmission - 3500 Stall, solid input shaft, B&M shift kit
* 3 inch Aluminum Driveshaft
* 57 Ford 9 inch rear with 4.11 Detroit Locker gear set
* 31 Spline Strange Axles
* Griffin aluminum radiator
* Spal 16 puller fan
* 3 inch pipes with an x pipe to 3 inch in/out 2 chamber Flowmaster mufflers
* MSD 6a Ignition
* MSD Distributor
* MSD Blaster III coil

380 RWHP on the dyno through the heavy AOD and 9 inch. 11.5 in the 1/4 13-15 MPG and I drive it anywhere.

Idling 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bozRS...e=channel_page

Idling 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBhAE...e=channel_page

Racing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c60rI...e=channel_page (with an exhaust leak, leaving at idle)

Burnouts!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh6D2...e=channel_page

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Old May 27, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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I hate you, Nick. I hate you so very much.

(as a side note, that's one mean Marauder)
Old May 27, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Starfury
(as a side note, that's one mean Marauder)
He blew the motor up last month. Overboosted it.
Old May 27, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Sadface
Old May 27, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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That video perfectly demonstrates why you need front disc brakes.

dodgestang I may have to borrow some of your specs for my (one day) stroked 351C.
Old May 27, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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Two things to think about.

1. You need to really run the numbers on your pistons, rods, stroke, and combustion chamber so that you are not going to have a really high compression ratio. For street gas, 10:1 with iron heads is about all you want.

2. 500hp alone is not a killer, but when you achieve that with 500ft*lbs of torque, you are going to need beefy parts. Start thinking about performance tranny, upgraded rearend, highend clutch or torque converter, suspension, etc. Torque kills parts .

It is doable because that is what I am doing with a 383W. Just watch your CR and get good parts. 500ft*lbs is very streetable, but you will have some quirks and will probably break most of your stock driveline along the way.
Old May 27, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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not that urban has ever broken any parts........

Old May 27, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by racin66coupe
not that urban has ever broken any parts........

Exactly why I am passing on the advice/warning .



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