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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 4reboy
I agree that it might just be easier to shorten the pans, 1" square tubing will still put the seats 1" off the floor, and won't give you the proper angle. Shortening the pans will give you the angle and strength you need and will at least look fairly correct on the car. Just what I would do if I was in this position and had the choice...
I can put the proper angle by bolting the seats to the rails at the proper location, they have three holes in the front and three in the back to tune in the angle you want. Right now they are so high and forward that I have to put my right let in around the steering wheel before I get in so most of the pan would have to go anyway to get the seat to be comfortable. I just needed to know if the seat pan helped with the structural strength of the car.
Old Mar 3, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokeybear31
I can put the proper angle by bolting the seats to the rails at the proper location, they have three holes in the front and three in the back to tune in the angle you want. Right now they are so high and forward that I have to put my right let in around the steering wheel before I get in so most of the pan would have to go anyway to get the seat to be comfortable. I just needed to know if the seat pan helped with the structural strength of the car.
Yes it does. It ties the frame rails, rockers and transmission tunnel together. Without the seat pans there is only one layer of sheetmetal through the center bottom of the car tying the rockers together. Front to rear the rockers are plenty strong but side to side they need help. If you dont put the seat pans back in, then what ever you use needs to replace this strength and tie all three of those back together.
Old Mar 3, 2010 | 11:46 PM
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Look on Mustangs Plus's website. They did a seat pan delete and show it step by step.
Old Mar 4, 2010 | 09:19 AM
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Default Here are some pics of how I did mine.

I used some 1 inch tube and made some new pans also.Scott
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by greystallion66
Look on Mustangs Plus's website. They did a seat pan delete and show it step by step.
I saw the tech article where they lowered the pans but I don't see one where they deleted it. Do you happen to have a link?



That's exactly what I was gonna do to mine except that I'll weld a 3" x 5" plate on to the end of the one inch tube and then weld the plate to the sheetmetal of the floorpan to increase the strength and reduce the chance of the tube pulling through the sheetmetal. Basically the same way you attach roll cages.
Old Mar 5, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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The seat risers effectively form torque boxes in the middle of the car. I would be willing to bet that they provide a tremendous amount of the total torsional stiffness to the car. Deleting them entirely would kill your torsional stiffnesa and handling.

I cannot see the pictures posted of some users solutions on my blackberry, however I will say that the height of the riser is what provides the increase in torsional stiffness not the thickness of the material or the fact that it is stamped versus tube.

While simply welding a one inch tube to the floor will keep you from falling through the floor, it will not significanlty increase torsional stiffness over having nothing at all.

Frankly the best solution would be to find some seats that sit low enough to bolt to the riser and still fit you in the car. - I.e. Fiero seats.

Good luck....
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