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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Planning to install timing gears and chain to replace Pete Jackson gear set (noisy). Removed cover. Aligned crank with timing mark and key vertically. Cam gear looks to be off one tooth based on its timing mark. Any idea if could be installed correctly this way? Car runs just fine. Or do you think there might be a mistake with the way the gear set was installed?
Old Jan 2, 2012 | 02:00 PM
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Could be whoever installed the previous gearset adjusted the timing on purpose to change the cam profile. Also, could just be that it was installed improperly.
Old Jan 2, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Thank you. The engine is a 302 modified to a 347 stroker. The timing mark on the cam is such that it lags the crank. That is, when turning crank clockwise, its timing mark passes vertical before the timing mark on the cam gear reaches the 6 o'clock position. Would that make sense based on someone wanting to change the cam profile?
Old Jan 2, 2012 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by don57
Thank you. The engine is a 302 modified to a 347 stroker. The timing mark on the cam is such that it lags the crank. That is, when turning crank clockwise, its timing mark passes vertical before the timing mark on the cam gear reaches the 6 o'clock position. Would that make sense based on someone wanting to change the cam profile?
this could be normal depending on if you have an aftermarket cam and if it was degreed correctly. Just depends on how much it's off.

some pics could probably help a lot.
Old Jan 2, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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Here is a photo. The crank dot is at 12 o'clock. The cam dot is shy of 6 o'clock by about one tooth.

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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 05:41 PM
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IDK how the Pete Jackson gear drive is supposed to be set up, but I suspect it was timed wrong. I think being off as much as it looks in the picture is too much for this to be an attempt a degreeing the cam.

In any case, I would install the timing sprockets and chain "right" (line em up) and degree from there, (if you want to degree the cam), regardless of what was done before.
Old Jan 2, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Do you know where I would find the cam identification? Would it be behind the cam retaining plate?
Old Jan 2, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JMD
IDK how the Pete Jackson gear drive is supposed to be set up, but I suspect it was timed wrong. I think being off as much as it looks in the picture is too much for this to be an attempt a degreeing the cam.

In any case, I would install the timing sprockets and chain "right" (line em up) and degree from there, (if you want to degree the cam), regardless of what was done before.
+1.....
Old Jan 2, 2012 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by don57
Do you know where I would find the cam identification? Would it be behind the cam retaining plate?
Don't over think the situation, I have never seen any SBF cam that should be timed any other way than straight up. (degreeing aside)

You could look on the front of the cam for a part number, but I doubt you will find one there, but it is only two bolts away....
Old Jan 3, 2012 | 12:19 AM
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I think it was also timed wrong....probably

If you notice the dot is below the 0 indicator on the cam gear. If they wanted to advance the timing they should have used the dot indicated by the A lining these dots up would adv 4 deg (about 1/2 tooth or less) the R indicates 4 deg retard. In any case the dots should be lined up...that's probably 10 deg of either advance or retard (not sure which) I doubt the cam specs would call for that much.



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