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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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When i first came on to this forum, i really didnt have a clue what i wanted from my stang, i knew that i wanted high horsepower, and i wanted a road racer-style. I have the high-power. But seems that its too much power for a road racer, so it looks as though im going for a pro-street style now. I was curious if anyone knew where i could find a front sub-frame pre-made specific for a 66. Ive looked and ive come so close, but its always for a camaro. And i really do not want to use a Mustang II front end, just for the fact that i dont like them, IMO they look cheap and not too well built. And an easy, universal alternative to swap the front end suspension. But feel free to inform me more on this front end if you wish.

This is th sub-frame style im going for, I think. And that is the overall look im wishing to succeed at accomplishing. And still be a driven on a regular basis, but im not doing the lexan windows.

So if ya'll can hel pme find a front sub-frame allong these it would much appreciated.

This was the only website i found useful: http://www.cachassisworks.com/cac_products.html

https://www.cachassisworks.com/iwwid...ti_item_submit
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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I don't understand the question.

You have a fully tubbed and tube framed mustang race car and you are attempting to return it to standard road duty and need part for the front end...is that about right?
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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I don't understand the question either. Are you looking for sub frame connectors?
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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I think he is looking for a beefier front end than the stock one, but doesn't want to use the mustange II.

There is a vender that makes a new type front end for old mustangs. It is weld in and you have to cut the strut towers.
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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yeah i apoligize, I havent tubed it out yet, but im looking into doing so. I want a much beefier front end, and just like jrrhd73must said, i do not want the mustang II front clip. I was just wondering if ya'll knew of any other manufactures i can turn to?
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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Again pardon my ignorance.


This picture: 03_12_sb.jpg

Shows that the entire front clip of the car has been removed and replaced with a full tube frame a custom arms and coil overs have been installed. There are no manufactures that make "bolt or weld this onto your any year mustang" that will make a product that fits your application as I understand it from the pictures.

Additionally, you have custom spindles, the car has been converted to front steer (as apposed to rear steer spindles), there is absolutely nothing in the front end even remotely like a stock anything and the motor has been relocated towards the rear approx 6-8 inches (if not more). To upgrade the steering/front end on this car you have to go full custom.
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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Okay well then I appreciate the input. And that sort of answers my question,i really wasnt sure if i had to somehow custom build the front end like that one in the picture. But it brings on a new question, what is the front steer spindles vs rear steer spindles?
Old Nov 12, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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Chris Alston has been doing Mustangs since at least the 70's (thats when I started using his chassis). They know the Mustang very well.
I would suggest you do your homework before contacting them. But yes, you can buy the rear and front sub chassis seperate...or at least you used to be able to.

Let me tell you from experience, if you are going to start welding in subchassis, start with a straight stock chassis that is fully welded. Build some jigs that you do extremely careful measurements on...Well, you don't *have* to, but a good driver can tell the difference on a correctly built chassis.

Adding torque boxes, subframes, and welding the whole front end does an amazing job of stiffening up the car. It's an absolute bitch if you wreck it though.

Go to a Mustang track event and look at what the racers are doing. Your time, elbow grease, and welding wire can produce a competitive chassis, without welding in sub-chassis.

dodgestang is refering to the location of the outer tie rod in relation to the spindle. If the tie rod is towards the rear of the car in relation to the spindle it is considered "rear steer spindle", on the other hand if the tie rod is towards the front of the car relative to the spindle, it is considered a "front steer" spindle.

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