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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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My 289 V8 is a first time starter, but whenever i put her in gear (drive or reverse) she starts to sputter and then stalls.
What could cause this. Where should i start looking ? What could cause this. Who can give me some pointers ?
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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does it run smooth in park? In park can you rev it up to 3k at any rate and not have a problem?

Is idle speed high enough?

There could be a vacuum leak from some spot on the carb listen for hissing sounds from that area. If you have propane (like one of those large size torches) start the car and run the raw (dont light it) propane around the base of the carb and any hoses connecting to it as well as any vacuum ports that are intentionally blocked off. If the engine changes speed there is a vacuum leak in that area.

Also check your low speed (idle) jets on your carb if they are too far in that may cause a problem as well. Turn them in and count how many turns it takes to seat them. Usually two turns out should provide a mix close enough for a decent run.

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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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In addition to Gun Jam, older cars take a bit more finesse to keep running. Modern injected engines will start, run and drive very smoothly, almost like they are electric powered. A carb isnt as precise, and will sometimes need the throttle feathered, meaning you pump the gas pedal very slightly. You dont need to floor it, just add a bit more gas and it will run ok. Most people have forgotten that about older cars, and younger people who never drove an old car wont know.

If you take the time to learn about the carb and how to adjust it, you can nullify most of the issues inherent with them. Vacuum leaks are a big problem as far as driveability, so is the choke setting, idle speed, idle mix, timing, torque converter, and cam specifications just to name a few. Check for the vacuum leak and get any fixed that you find. If you dont find any, its all in the tune and quite often factory settings wont cure the prolem with 30-40 year old parts.
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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In addition to Gun Jam, older cars take a bit more finesse to keep running. Modern injected engines will start, run and drive very smoothly, almost like they are electric powered. A carb isnt as precise, and will sometimes need the throttle feathered, meaning you pump the gas pedal very slightly. You dont need to floor it, just add a bit more gas and it will run ok. Most people have forgotten that about older cars, and younger people who never drove an old car wont know.

If you take the time to learn about the carb and how to adjust it, you can nullify most of the issues inherent with them. Vacuum leaks are a big problem as far as driveability, so is the choke setting, idle speed, idle mix, timing, torque converter, and cam specifications just to name a few. Check for the vacuum leak and get any fixed that you find. If you dont find any, its all in the tune and quite often factory settings wont cure the prolem with 30-40 year old parts.
On target as usual Todd. Yeah, these old engines take a lot of tweaking by ear to get them set up to running at their best. The first thing to consider whenever these old engines are not running up to par is ignition, then fuel. If it doesn't light on time and with a strong spark, it won't run smoothly no matter what the carb setting is. The next thing to consider adjusting is the carb. First, you need to make sure it is getting an adequate fuel supply from the tank. If it is, then the carb itself has to be adjusted with an air/fuel mixture that is set for that particular engine. And as Todd stated, the vacuum needs to be right. The hoses need to be in good shape. The vacuum advance mechanism on the distributor need to also be working properly.
Old Feb 5, 2006 | 06:33 AM
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Thanks! Its good to know the time I spent working on old cars, and going to school was worth it! Now to get the ASE Certs redone.. Expired in December... ughhh
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