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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 03:44 AM
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I have a 64 & 1/2 mustang with drum brakes all around. Looking for a step by step (with pictures hopefully) on how to rebuild & where to buy parts or kits. Any links info & tips will be most helpfull.
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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It would take too long to go through that completely but, I'm sure you could get the help you need here. Have you worked on brakes before? Do you have specific issues to address? It isn't rocket science but, there are things to know, so maybe we can "walk" you through it. For shoes, I like to use Raybestos. I would go with shoes and a spring kit, unless you have other issues like it pulls or leaks or something.
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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well the reason a need the pressure valve is so i can wire in a warning light. Unfortunately, I just dont have the cheese to buy a disc break kit. Ive seen guides for installing disc breaks from other old ford junk cars, but even that would require me to get rid of my 14 inch wheels, and well, again, not enough cheese. I think the 50 bucks for the dual bowl conversion increases my safety to suitable levels, and doesnt keep me from going to college.

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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Park the car and save up for a front disc brake conversion kit, along with a dual master cylinder kit. That was the first thing I did to mine as soon as I bought it. they're not very expensive, and the Mustang you save may be your own!
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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well the reason a need the pressure valve is so i can wire in a warning light. Unfortunately, I just dont have the cheese to buy a disc break kit. Ive seen guides for installing disc breaks from other old ford junk cars, but even that would require me to get rid of my 14 inch wheels, and well, again, not enough cheese. I think the 50 bucks for the dual bowl conversion increases my safety to suitable levels, and doesnt keep me from going to college.

By the way odyssey, yearone.com, texasmustang.com (located in waco, not sure what part of tx youre in) I know both have drum brake hardware kits, and id be willing to bet so does cjponyparts.com. that and my chilton manual from orileys has more pictures than you can shake a stick at. Ive bought a few pieces from texas mustang, no bad experiences to speak of, but come to think of it ive been waiting 2 weeks on my conversion kit from cjpony...

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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Odyssey Racing
I have a 64 & 1/2 mustang with drum brakes all around. Looking for a step by step (with pictures hopefully) on how to rebuild & where to buy parts or kits. Any links info & tips will be most helpfull.
What you need is a Factory Service Manual from your favorite Mustang supplier, along with appropriate service parts. My favorite dealer is Glazier Nolan. The manual is much better than the ones in auto stores, it has step by step detailed instructions, with excellent photos. You gotta have one, and it'll pay for itself many times over. Mine is 30 years old, dog-eared, glued back together, I still use it all the time.
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Odyssey Racing
I have a 64 & 1/2 mustang with drum brakes all around. Looking for a step by step (with pictures hopefully) on how to rebuild & where to buy parts or kits. Any links info & tips will be most helpfull.
I just finished doing this on my 64.5 with all drums as well. One tip, only do one front side and one rear side at a time, so if anything goes wrong or you need it, you can look at the other side to see how it goes back together. You can't put some parts back on the opposite side of the car, so only do one wheel at a time.
Get a brake spring removal tool.
As for instruction, I have several shop manuals and I kept coming back to this book over and over. Mustang Restoration Handbook By Don Taylor, Tom S. Wilson.
It has a chapter on brakes will tell you step by step how to take it apart, recondition the parts and put it back together. Has all the diagrams you need. (print them out)
I own the book, but you can read and print out the brake specific chapter on Google Books. If you are restoring your car, I highly recommend it! The brakes are in chapter 6 starting on page 82 at this location:

http://books.google.com/books?id=O4c...estore&f=false

Pick contents, then chapter 6
If you need any help, let me know and I will try and do what I can.
Old Oct 28, 2009 | 12:39 AM
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Any Chilton or Haynes repair manual will have all the info you need. You can also take a picture of the assemblies before you take them apart to be sure it goes back together the way it came apart. You can also check out these links:http://freeautomechanic.com/brake-drum-brakes.html and http://www.2carpros.com/how_to/rear_brake_shoes.htm and http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to/vi...akes-243973_2/ It doesn't say what these are on but it looks pretty much the same as a Mustang setup. I wouldn't even consider doing the job without using new brake hardware (springs and such) and adjuster assemblies. Your old hardware could be as much as 45 years old and springs tend to lose their tension over time. Be sure to check your wheel cylinders very well. Pull the rubber cups back and make sure there is no fluid leaking past the pistons. If there is, replace them. Also inspect all the rubber hoses for any cracks or swelling. If there is, replace them. Take the drums to some place that can turn them on a brake lathe. If you are doing the fronts, you are going to want to replace your wheel bearing seals and inspect the bearings to see if they need to be replaced or if you can just repack them. Here is a link for that: http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to/vi...n-cars-226062/ You do not need to buy your parts from a Mustang specific supplier. Any auto parts store will have or be able to easily get the parts you need and a lot of them also have the equipment to turn your drums. Brakes are not something you want to be cheap on. You don't have to go with discs to be safe but keeping your drum brake system in good repair is absolutely neccessary.

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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 07:49 AM
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+1 on Chiltons and FSM. Chiltons has good step by step instructions and pics. I got a drum brake rebuild kit from CJ Pony with all springs, wheel cylinders, self adjusters etc. Definitely get the brake spring tool. Also If your brakes are intact take a pic of them before you tear them apart so you can go back and look at where things go. I had never touched brakes before, and I completely rebuilt my entire brake system from MC to hard lines to backing plates. If I can do it so can you!
Old Oct 29, 2009 | 07:51 AM
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I always go with the assembly as per the factory service manual. No reason to believe the guy who assembled your brakes last time wasn't an idiot. You really want to rely on him for the safety of your wife and kids?

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