GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

Hi Im considering getting a mustang and I really want a black94 or 95 Mustang GTwith the 5.0 Engine and the 5spd transmission. I really like the 8cyl 5.0motor and the and the way the car looks.

My first question is if there is a way to put a DOHC on it and what would be required to do it. I already did a search but Im still interested in if it just bolts up or if I need to change the pistons or if a stock head gasket or even a thinner one would work for it. My other question is if there is a way to doa Ford Variable Valve Timingwith the DOHC like the Honda VTEC or the BMW VANOS system.

I would also like to knw if there is a way to have the engine run on 4cyl. Hey with gas prices on the rise and college bills to pay, if there was a way to do it, Im in. I can do it the only question is which cylinders to cut the fuel to so it still runs reliably. I just wanna make sure that when Im on the Highway I can save gas but when I wanna punch it, flip aswitch, and I have all the cylinders blowing fire.

As far as future mods, Im gonna deck out the motor for sure.

So any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks
Konrad

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

uh well first off no to the whole statement. You cant turn an ohv car into an ohc car. Simply cant be done. secondyou cant makea variable valve timing either. Third off i highly doubt there is any way to shut off 4 cylinders of ur motor. that requires technology the 5.0 ford certainly doesnt have.

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

this has GOT to be a joke, DOHC on a 5.0? wow.... I dont even know where to start here.... Auto makers have tried for years to shut off cylinders to improve fuel milege, however it was not till this year that ford has made one, and its in the new f150, so you could take that motor and the ECM but that would cost 10 times what the car is worth, but its your money, just does not sound like an efficient way to save at the pump,.. how about you take an Auto shop class or two at that college you are attending, and then come tell us how to do these things... good luck, and BTW I would not talk about the rice burners on here unless its to put one down, I think we are all just about die hard ford fans... at least I am...

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

AAAGREEED. if you want a dohc mustang, just get a 99-04 cobra.

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

Sure you can run on 4 cylinders....Just buy a destroyed V8 with 4 crappy ones:D

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

Well the saving gas idea I got from the 300M on how it shuts 4 cyl and runs on 4 when needed and all 8 when it needs power, I would eigther cut power to the injectors with a relay and a switch or install a aftermarket ECU and take it from there.

Well Im just wondering if there is any type of Variable Valve Timing Technology on the Mustangs and if there is anything that can be done to put that on the 5.0 motor or the 4.6 motors, like a headswap and havea aftermarket ECU take car of the opening the solenoids,this way I have a good idle and good low end power and then to havegreat top endpower, basically thats the point of it.

Oh and I totally forgot that those motors are ohv motors.

Basically I wanna build up a Mustang with that body style while trying to utilize newer technology

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

well I will be the first to say this (but not the first to think it,) your a nut..

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

^+1 your going to have to sink tons of money into it just to save what like 5MPG? it just doesnt make sense

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

exforbrian, the 95 in your signature pic looks tiny compared to the 07:D

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

if you are worried about saving money at the pump DON'T BUY A V8 especially a 5.0 and dont expect your gas milage to go up when you start madding i think everyone here can varify that it works the other way around... BIG V8 + lots of mods = big time gas guzzler. i speak from first hand experience i own a 91 fox with a 347 in it :)

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

yea i half to agree with strkrstang87. im runnin 92 fox 331 stroker big lunati cam, trick flow heads with alot of machine work done to them. 4:10 gears and a lead foot. 7 miles to the gallon. no joke

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

Well my idea is pretty simple and its pretty cheap on how to do it, but I think If I get one, Its prob gonna gonna turn into a full out fast car, which is what it was meant for

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

Quite a few years ago there actually was a DOHC head for the ohv 5.0. I think Dominion was the name. they popped up in an old stang mag and that was the last i ever heard of them. The company was bought out and the name changed but to what i cant remember.

But yes, there were DOHC heads for the 5.0 at one time. In the late 90s i think they were.

Mightve been in 5.0 Mustang. I have the mag somewhere, ill try to find it.

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

Here they are. The heads are made by Arao Engineering now.

http://www.araoengineering.com/Ford/frdsmb.htm

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

well there you go, have at it,

RE: GT 5.0 Head or Engine Swap
 

Nw Im thinkin possibly an engine swap to get the DOHC. Does Ford have any Mustang Heads that have Variable Valve Timing or anything aftermarket out there that could work, I understand I would need aaftermarket ECU to control it, question is is there anything of that nature out there

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

Why are you so set on the variable valve timing?

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

or 96-98 Cobra or the 03/04 Mach 1s.

SCAMMED BY ARAO ENGINEERING INC, RUSSELL ARAO
 

In a word forget it. We ordered 32valve Ford Cleveland cyl heads from him on 2/1/06. Paid in FULL USD$11k + to expedite the order with a promised delivery date of 90days MFG. and so far we received some pictures and a whole lot of bull**** promises.

Unless you feel like throwing your $$$ down the toilet, don’t even go there, take it from our VERY bad and costly experience with Arao.

I can write you pages and pages regarding this order with Arao, but I will spare you the headache.

Short Story...On Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:26 PM I Kevin Gall made contact via email with a company located in California U.S.A. As you know the company is ARAO Engineering Inc. the owner is Russell ARAO . In my contact email to ARAO i enquired about a special order set of FORD Aluminum racing cylinder heads - a product ARAO advertises & manufactures. After receiving a reply and several emails i decided to place an order with ARAO The product is special order Automotive cylinder heads to suit a Ford V8 for racing use at a fax quoted cost of USD $11,000.00 manufacturing leadtime ARAO states on paper 90days for special orders.

On 31st January 2006 payment via Int'l Bank Wire of USD $5,500.00 & 6th February 2006 USD $5,500.00 was completed in FULL to ARAO Engineering Inc. Bank account. After several more emails to finalize details and special requests i was informed by ARAO were engaged and going. After some waiting i emailed ARAO on Friday, June 02, 2006 12:39 AM to ask if everything was on track, i received a response back from ARAO that everything was fine and on track.

Again after more waiting On Friday, September 15, 2006 03:05:42 i asked via email a good friend of mine that owns a reputable drag racing supplies shop located in Whittier, CA U.S.A. to contact ARAO by telephone. He spoke with Russell ARAO and he stated to he was waiting on parts from an outside supplier - hence the delay. In months to come i have made ALOT of repeated attempts in writing, faxes, calls, emails to receive a date for finalizing and completion of my special order. I still have not received a date at which my order will be finished.

As of today Sunday, Jan 17th, 2008 nearly two(2) years later i have not received my order from ARAO Engineering Inc, only BU**SHT PROMISES AND ABSOLUTE LIES. The only thing i have received is pictures of my heads un-finished. I believe i have been patient and understanding and more than reasonable considering that ARAO has not delivered as promised 90days to manufacture.

From my personal dealings I heavily caution anybody wishing to part with their money to purchase from a disreputable company like ARAO Engineering Inc. If you have any questions/comments please email anytime! ....Arao Engineering has been reported by myself to the L.A Better Business Bureau & also C.A dept of Justice ,The office of the Attorney General C.A. It is noted Russ Arao Failed to respond to any complaint(s).

**NOTE: I/We am willing to persue this matter all the way into a U.S Court. ANY support is welcome! This person/company CANNOT steal your money and think that it is right or acceptable -no matter what.

RE: SCAMMED BY ARAO ENGINEERING INC, RUSSELL ARAO
 

Wow, after reading that last responce I'm hesitant to mension this,but I read about an overhead cam setup for a 302 made by Eagle Gurney.I don't know about availability though.

RE: SCAMMED BY ARAO ENGINEERING INC, RUSSELL ARAO
 

Saw a four eye converted to 04 cobra driveline... expect to pay probably ten grand for a totalled terminator with good driveline, and it would be a lot of work but it's been done. No offense, but you sound like a V6 guy. If I were you I'd buy a 5 speed V6 and throw a 75 shot at it until you can better afford the expenses of owning a V8

RE: GT 5.0 Head Swap
 

ohv blocks and ohc blocks are different. it wouldnt work.

youre asking some pretty nooby Qs [8D]

RE: SCAMMED BY ARAO ENGINEERING INC, RUSSELL ARAO
 

you dont buy a mustang to save gas bro... you buy a mustang to waste it!

RE: SCAMMED BY ARAO ENGINEERING INC, RUSSELL ARAO
 

Hah! Amen.

Russ Arao apologizes for some customers long wait
 

I Russell Arao apologize to those who have had to wait for their order.
Arao Engineering and Russell Arao have rectified the manufacturing problem with a manufacturing alliance with a large CNC manufacturing firm. This alliance has been much needed to alleviate a large "Bottleneck" in the manufacturing of its 32valve cylinder head products. This has been in the making for some time, and is now tooled up and manufacturing product. We tried to keep all manufacturing in house up until recently, but the decision was made to outsource. This helps alleviate some major problems in the delivery to customers of its product. I truly apologize to those customers who have had to wait. The significance of this alliance is stated here. The Facts are:
1) Old backorders of product to waiting customers are being taken care of FIRST.
2) Every model of cylinder head is being manufactured to be in stock. All Chevy and Ford.
3) With manufacturing outsourced, engineers can devote more time to Research and Development of its product.
The first backorder to be shipped with this new alliance went to Kevin Gall of Billet Racing. This was a special one off Blown Alcohol 32v Ford Cleveland head. With special 6 studs per cylinder and "O" ringed intake ports. A "Bad Ass" set of heads that most engine builders predict will produce well over 2000 HP on blown alcohol. We will make this data available when available to us.
Ongoing Horsepower comparisons are being conducted on other models and figures will be published.
You guys deserve the truth and to be informed, and you will get it.
Thank You
Russ Arao
russarao@aol.com