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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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I will go ahead an apologize for what will seem like is me talking to you like you are all 4th graders, but it is a 4th grader trying to be clear to the experts.

My daughter bought an 4 cyl 88 Mustang with an auto tranny. Well the tranny blew up and she was offered a freebie T5 manual transmission and all the parts by a friend, except a few parts we had to round up and buy.
Here's the deal. One of the parts on the transmission is incomplete and I don't know the correct name to try to locate a new one.
When the clutch pedal is depressed the fork should be pulled towards the rear of the transmission.
As attached through the bell housing, the cable, when the pedal is depressed, would pull the fork towards the front of the transmission.
To correctly pull the fork to the rear a stock pivoting lever arm on the housing is used.
The lever is present, but the piece that is attached to the arm that would attach the secondary cable to the fork is missing.
What is that pivoting lever called? Where can I get one?
Is the missing piece available? Where could I get one of those? I would prefer to just replace the missing piece if possible.

Thanks, David
Old Sep 14, 2013 | 10:47 PM
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Just to understand better, the cable attaches to the clutch fork which rides on the input shaft [ thru the throw out bearing ] and pivots on the ball socket. I don't understand your "secondary cable", there's only one cable. I'm running an aftermarket cable, so maybe the stock setup might be different but I don't think so.

You may want to post this question in the Fox section, there's alot of smart guys in there that may help more than me.

Just for fun, go to "Late Model Restoration", or "Rock Auto" and look for clutch parts. They'll have pic's of all clutch parts.

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Old Sep 15, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 88 orangepeel notch
Just to understand better, the cable attaches to the clutch fork which rides on the input shaft [ thru the throw out bearing ] and pivots on the ball socket. I don't understand your "secondary cable", there's only one cable. I'm running an aftermarket cable, so maybe the stock setup might be different but I don't think so.

You may want to post this question in the Fox section, there's alot of smart guys in there that may help more than me.

Just for fun, go to "Late Model Restoration", or "Rock Auto" and look for clutch parts. They'll have pic's of all clutch parts.
You misunderstand. The "pivot lever" could be said to be shaped like a 2 blade propellor. It has a lower blade, an upper blade, and pivots in the middle where it attaches to the transmission housing. The clutch cable attaches to the "pivot lever's" lower "blade". When the clutch pedal is depressed the "pivot lever's lower blade" is pulled forward. This moves the upper "blade" backward. The upper "blade" should have a short cable attaching it to the fork. So when the pedal is depressed the fork moves in the opposite of the main cable movement, as if there was a turn around pulley.
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 08:24 AM
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Yeah, I'm not understanding your description. The "pivot lever" you describe is called a clutch fork. The clutch cable attaches to one end, in the middle of the clutch fork is a slot that accepts the throw out bearing (with 2 metal tabs that lightly hold on to bearing), that bearing rides on the input shaft of transmission. On the opposite end of clutch fork is a ball socket , that's the pivot point for the whole assembly. I know this can be a real pain trying to explain what is right in front of you to someone that might be thinking something completely different. I'm going off of memory from when I swapped to the 5-speed 2-3 yrs back.

To the mod. of this section, maybe move this to the Fox section, someone with more understanding will help to be more clear.
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 09:04 PM
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I understand now that the "fork" as I called it is actually called the throw out lever. Here is the problem. A standard throw out lever would be "pulled" by the clutch cable as the pedal is depressed to the floor. On this transmission, the cable would have to "push" the throw out lever. Hence, the reversing mechanism.
The clutch cable exits the fire wall, snakes down and back to the bell housing. It passes throw and mounts to the housing with the cable exiting toward the rear of the car. The cable is maybe 4" below the throw out lever. The cable then goes toward the rear of the car and attaches to the "reversing mechanism". The mechanism then transfers up past the center pivot and to the upper connection bar (the 4" mentioned before", then back forward to the throw out lever, where it would attach to "pull" the lever as the pedal is depress. Hopefully you will now see that the throw out lever moves opposite from the norm.
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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Yes, that's completely different than mine, I understand your explanation now. I know the T5's are rated lower for the 4cyl, but didn't think they had a different clutch setup. Sorry I couldn't help more, but still might want to check out "RockAuto" for pictures of what you need. It's a good website for finding parts. Goodluck
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