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well there is no point really i guess it goes back to the saying all show and no go! mommy and daddy bought them, i just didnt want to fall out of the seat when i go around curves. i have no clue why people do this. i bought a pair or 1200$ seat one time but i only paid 300$ for the pair at a swap meet. brought them home put them in my stang and sold them the next week for 1000$ thats why i bought them and installed just to make some $$$$$$$. people are crazy. get to the 13's,12's,11's,10's, or 9's then worry about the seats.