losing traction mid turn for no reason
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losing traction mid turn for no reason
2013 V6 Premium with 30k miles. Zero issues until recently. Apparently my car now loses grip mid turn, especially in wet weather, and almost kills me. Today I literally have to counter steer like a madman to avoid spinning out. I’m not flooring it, turning off traction control, etc, this is all during normal driving. If I apply any gas mid turn the rear kicks out, traction control doesn’t seem to do much, if anything. I feel like I also hydroplane more than usual but I may just be paranoid I have fresh all seasons on it so it can’t be those. It’s never acted like this before and I really don’t feel comfortable driving it around in wet conditions.
Any clue wtf is going on?
Any clue wtf is going on?
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Joined: Jan 2018
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From: Pennsylvania
Hydroplaning occurs when your tires move over a wet surface so quickly that they don't
have time to displace enough water and contact the surface. The water lifts the tire up from
the surface, and the vehicle begins to hydroplane. Nothing else causes hydroplaning, it's
the tires, period.
Tire size and tread patterns are also important. Hydroplaning is more likely to happen if your
vehicle has narrow tires. Worn tires are more dangerous in wet conditions. Certain tire tread
patterns are better at channeling water away than others.
You got tires that don't run well in the rain, simple as that.
-or-
You can have bad shocks, so when you hit a small bump, the suspension does not recover
fast enough, and initiates the sliding on the water because the tire has not come down fast
enough, most common in turns, the slide out, and will be MUCH worse on wet roads.
have time to displace enough water and contact the surface. The water lifts the tire up from
the surface, and the vehicle begins to hydroplane. Nothing else causes hydroplaning, it's
the tires, period.
Tire size and tread patterns are also important. Hydroplaning is more likely to happen if your
vehicle has narrow tires. Worn tires are more dangerous in wet conditions. Certain tire tread
patterns are better at channeling water away than others.
You got tires that don't run well in the rain, simple as that.
-or-
You can have bad shocks, so when you hit a small bump, the suspension does not recover
fast enough, and initiates the sliding on the water because the tire has not come down fast
enough, most common in turns, the slide out, and will be MUCH worse on wet roads.
Last edited by 08'MustangDude; Sep 10, 2018 at 02:10 AM.
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Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 375
From: Clinton, Tennessee
I have to agree, you bought some crap tires 
. As my factory all season Pirelli's started wearing out, I had to be 'very' careful in the rain and on curves. Even on dry roads the tires were dangerous . Replaced them with a good all season tire (Cooper Zeon RS3-A), all is great now. Lots of great all season tires out there and a lot of crap all season tires out there too 
. As my factory all season Pirelli's started wearing out, I had to be 'very' careful in the rain and on curves. Even on dry roads the tires were dangerous . Replaced them with a good all season tire (Cooper Zeon RS3-A), all is great now. Lots of great all season tires out there and a lot of crap all season tires out there too
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Posts: 13,189
From: AZ
If you have the original tires and are at 30K, my guess is you need new tires. What kind of tread is left? Penny trick only works for MINIMUM tread depth, not for actual ideal grip. Also if your tires are original, they are at least 5 years old and should be replaced anyway. It's been proven that after about 3-4 years the rubber components start to dry out and harden so, even if you only have 10K miles on your car, the tire grip and performance will be affected by age alone. Here in AZ the suggestion is 3-4 years tops.
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If you have the original tires and are at 30K, my guess is you need new tires. What kind of tread is left? Penny trick only works for MINIMUM tread depth, not for actual ideal grip. Also if your tires are original, they are at least 5 years old and should be replaced anyway. It's been proven that after about 3-4 years the rubber components start to dry out and harden so, even if you only have 10K miles on your car, the tire grip and performance will be affected by age alone. Here in AZ the suggestion is 3-4 years tops.
2013 V6 Premium with 30k miles. Zero issues until recently. Apparently my car now loses grip mid turn, especially in wet weather, and almost kills me. Today I literally have to counter steer like a madman to avoid spinning out. I’m not flooring it, turning off traction control, etc, this is all during normal driving. If I apply any gas mid turn the rear kicks out, traction control doesn’t seem to do much, if anything. I feel like I also hydroplane more than usual but I may just be paranoid I have fresh all seasons on it so it can’t be those. It’s never acted like this before and I really don’t feel comfortable driving it around in wet conditions.
Any clue wtf is going on?
Any clue wtf is going on?
Gentleman's Relish
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 13,189
From: AZ
@ 08'Mustangdude yep, my bad, reading on a phone no bueno for details some times 
@ OP: In that case, yes it can be those fresh all seasons. If the car wasn't breaking loose mid turn with the old tires on there and the only thing that has changed are the tires...it's the tires. Are they the same brand and size as before or did you get a different brand or size? What brand/model of tire did you get?
I only buy summer tires for the Stang and there is a noticeable difference between BFG, Nitto, and Dunlop I've used. They are all Summer HP tires but they do not all handle the same way when new, as they wear, and as they reach the end of their tread life..
@ OP: In that case, yes it can be those fresh all seasons. If the car wasn't breaking loose mid turn with the old tires on there and the only thing that has changed are the tires...it's the tires. Are they the same brand and size as before or did you get a different brand or size? What brand/model of tire did you get?
I only buy summer tires for the Stang and there is a noticeable difference between BFG, Nitto, and Dunlop I've used. They are all Summer HP tires but they do not all handle the same way when new, as they wear, and as they reach the end of their tread life..
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