the firing order is the same...

 

Do crown Vic cop cars have a special motor?

Jim

 

some years like i think 85 86 had a 351. but the main differnece in a interceptor is the cooling they have large radiators and tranny coolers and some had oil cooler and of coarse a big alt.

 

I have a 1965 mustang 6 cylinder that I want to convert to a 302. I need to know what transmission and rear end will fit. I would like to put a five speed transmission in if possible.

 

No it isn't....An H.O. has a 351 firing order......

 

Wow, a lot of misinformation here.

The non-HO engines have different pistons, no valve reliefs, meaning that if you run E7's, youre VERY limited on your cam choice. The heads *should* be E6SE heads, which have heavily shrouded valves, and are a canted design, meaning the valves are in the heads in a different angle. ALL 5.0's from 1985 on are hydrolic roller engines. The firing order between the standard ouput and HO are different also, the SO uses an early 302 firing order if i remember correctly. The camshaft in the standard output is also a piece of junk, very low lift and duration. The HO also did get a double roller timing chain, while the SO got just a standard chain.

If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me, i actually have a standard output 5.0 on an engine stand right now, that im doing a mild build to, since i have it laying around already.

 

And it sounds like you are giving it out not all 5.0 motors from 85 and up are roller. I have had truck motors apart that where not roller and canted valves have not been on a 302 since a real Boss motor was built and the truck motor also had E7 heads it was a 87. The 86 heads where called turbo swirl and yes they had very shrould valves.also 86 HO pistons had no valve relifes and the other non HO motors had valve relifes and a bigger dish in the top.

 

Dude, youre a knucklehead.

Alright, we all know Ford didnt do things as they should have. The 85 302s were supposed to ALL get roller setups, the problems with that is, you can have a 1985 Ford Truck, you look at the build date, it can be in April of 84. So you have a 1984 Truck, sold in 1985, under the 1985 model year. The next model year begins in september or so, when all the new cars go on the lots. So the 2007 model year will begin in september or so. Look at the casting numbers on the block. Also, what flywheel did it have? What balance?

Im really amazed at how you flaunt some knowledge here. In 1987, the mustangs got mostly the same engine as the F150, other than camshaft, intake manifold, and some other odds and ends. The block casting number would be E7TE, the first letter E=1980, 7 is the specific year=1987, TE=truck useage. The head casting number is also E7TE, meaning they are the same heads as the trucks used.

The standard output cylinder heads are an E6SE part number, meaning they were designed in 1986, designated for car useage. These were the heads they used in all of the STANDARD OUTPUT 5.0's. Cars such as the crown vic, grand marguis, thunderbird, cougar, and other cars with the non-high output 5.0's.

Maybe canted isnt the word im looking for, but they are at a complete different angle in the head, very similar to how the Twisted Wedge heads work.

 

There you go editing your post on me while im replying. The 86 had totally flat top pistons. The non-HO engines had a dish in the top, but no valve reliefs. If it wasnt 20 degree's out, i could go flip my 5.0 over, and take a picture, theres a dish and no valve reliefs.

 

Look you peter princess. What should of been done and what was done is just the way it is. Ford did strange things yes that's why I said the 87 truck was not roller you said ALL well your wrong.I know how to read dates on casting number. Also the truck was also 50 oz balance.yes the 86 was a full flat top piston. And the HO motors had 4 valve reliefs and a small dish and the Non HO motors have a larger dish and reliefs. Now I do have a carbed 85 motor factory HO motor that has 4 reliefs and is a full flat top. I have also had a 87 up Crown Vick apart that also had E7s on it not the E6. for your thoughts maybe Ford screwed up again and maybe some one put them on some time in its life but sure seemed to be factory to me. I wont continue arguing with you, You started this by saying there was wrong info being handed out but in turn it was you handing it out come correct before you accuse others.If I can get my F-ing software to run I will up load you the photos of the pistons for you and if you need I also have some 86 heads for a photo if you need.

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