IM going to start from the begining and explain so bare with me PLEASE.

When I first installed my Long Tubes, Off Road X, CAI, I had my tuner set up for those few parts. The car drove great and everything.

Then I purchased CMCV deletes and BBK 62mm TB. The last time I installed these items the car wouldnt start. My friend suggested that the parts were the problem although I had my tuner retuned for the items. We took both the CMCV deletes and TB off and the car still wouldnt start.

We found out that we had to load the spring on the TB. So we went ahead one day and installed the TB back on and I installed the tune once again. The car started and drove pretty good but I didnt feel alot of get up and go power. I figured it was b/c my tune was set up for the CMCV delete plates too.

Today I tried to install the cmcv delete plates but I only got as far as trying to get the fuel line disconnected. I never got the fuel line off and the only other thing I did was unhook the battery. So I made sure the fuel line was tight and hooked the battery back up. A few hours later I went to start my car and it wouldnt start.
I had done nothing to the car and it wouldnt start.

So I figured what the hell and went ahead and put the CMCV delete plates on. Put them on, hooked everything up and boom nothing happened. The car just wont start. When I put the stock tune back on the car turns on and idles but it idles like **** and in limp mode. I put the 93 perf. tune back on from b@m@chips and it wont start.

Everything is obviously hooked up b/c it will start with the stock tune on but not with the tune for the parts.

Any ideas anyone?

I guess tomorrow im calling Brenspeed and seeing if they can email me a tune. My only thoughts are is that the tune I have is not setup for the mods I have. Although ive talked to another guy who has cmcv delete plates and his car ran without a tune.

 

The car should run, not good, but start with the CMDPs installed but no tune for it. Do you get any errors or anything when loading the tune?

 

sometimes when your in a situation like
this, you have to return the equipment to
a last known working configuration.

 

All I know is that the aftermarket TB's suck. I had a BBK and I had to take it off because idled and drove ike crap. I installed the stock one and it was perfect. You have to pre-load the spring on the stock TB as well. Just turn it 180 degrees counter-clockwise then hook it in the tabs.

 

Yes Howarmat I was getting a 2104 and a 2112. I found out that with the stock tune it was running b/c of the forced idle.

The problem was the spring in the TB.

 

wow....i know know that the different TBs cause problems but I cant believe how many actually do. I mean it amazes me that the crap out all the time practically. Sorry dude but atleast you should be good to go now.

 

Yeah im not going to say it was the BBK TB b/c the few times that we loaded the spring we turned it a few times and The Lowsters said tunr it 180 degrees that could have been the problem.

 

Got the spring replaced and installed and the car runs great! I havent gone WOT or even 1/2 throttle with it but it feels like it wants to go. I dont notice any lose in low rpm torq from the CMCV delete plates but we will see what the future has in store.

Also I would like to state that I love my BBK TB.

 

I thought all the TB's showed no performance gains?

 

depending on what mods are in the car it usually yields 9-15 hp