Cam'ed LS1 vs 450rwhp Cobra vs TT 300ZX
ORIGINAL: 98LS1
Same as before the cam swap. There's hardly any change, this is going off what I've read from others of course, as I have not done one.
I'm not sure what you mean by a 700hp car being perfectly driveable, or a 400+ N/A 5.0 being impractical at lower RPMs. If you're talking traction, that's one of the Cobra's biggest enemies bone stock.
There's tons of guys in the low 11's/high 10's with daily driven LS1 cars. On our cars, a heads/cam package goes a long ways.
ORIGINAL: OICW
How's the street-ability of the LS1 after the cam swap?
I'm saying this cause even a 700 hp Cobra (blown of course) is perfectly driveble. But a 400+ 5.0 NA would start to get impratical at lower rpms.
How's the street-ability of the LS1 after the cam swap?
I'm saying this cause even a 700 hp Cobra (blown of course) is perfectly driveble. But a 400+ 5.0 NA would start to get impratical at lower rpms.
I'm not sure what you mean by a 700hp car being perfectly driveable, or a 400+ N/A 5.0 being impractical at lower RPMs. If you're talking traction, that's one of the Cobra's biggest enemies bone stock.
There's tons of guys in the low 11's/high 10's with daily driven LS1 cars. On our cars, a heads/cam package goes a long ways.
Yes it does kill the drivabilty, because the reason that cam sounds so sick is because its crap at low rpms, hense the rough idle. Youd never pass emissions with one and cars with those cams are designed to be launched off the line so they never have to use the lower rpms. Yes it does sound totally sick, but at low rpms it would drive like crap because the fuel air ratio is so crappy. IMO drivabilty depends more on the cam than anything else. Try driving that car in traffic.
I read that the idle clip he showed in the video was with open headers before he put on the true dual exhaust, I've thinking it's more than streetable. Hell, a healthy stock motor with open headers can sound sick, and it's streetable.
Good video BTW, watch it bunch a times. Good friend of mine has a 94 LT1 Z28.
Good video BTW, watch it bunch a times. Good friend of mine has a 94 LT1 Z28.
ORIGINAL: Aliate X
Yes it does kill the drivabilty, because the reason that cam sounds so sick is because its crap at low rpms, hense the rough idle. Youd never pass emissions with one and cars with those cams are designed to be launched off the line so they never have to use the lower rpms. Yes it does sound totally sick, but at low rpms it would drive like crap because the fuel air ratio is so crappy. IMO drivabilty depends more on the cam than anything else. Try driving that car in traffic.
Yes it does kill the drivabilty, because the reason that cam sounds so sick is because its crap at low rpms, hense the rough idle. Youd never pass emissions with one and cars with those cams are designed to be launched off the line so they never have to use the lower rpms. Yes it does sound totally sick, but at low rpms it would drive like crap because the fuel air ratio is so crappy. IMO drivabilty depends more on the cam than anything else. Try driving that car in traffic.
I've got offroad headers and x-pipe sitting at the house, I don't care about emissions. I'm sure most of these guys don't either.
Did i say after market cam? Or did I say 2500-8000 rpm cam? Either way, I meant a really mean cam gives you that idle, and that screws your streetability, Im sure its possible, but still. I never said aftermarket cam, not all cams are that radical obviously.
ORIGINAL: OICW
How's the street-ability of the LS1 after the cam swap?
I'm saying this cause even a 700 hp Cobra (blown of course) is perfectly driveble. But a 400+ 5.0 NA would start to get impratical at lower rpms.
How's the street-ability of the LS1 after the cam swap?
I'm saying this cause even a 700 hp Cobra (blown of course) is perfectly driveble. But a 400+ 5.0 NA would start to get impratical at lower rpms.
Im still sticking with the notion that big cams are bad for street. I dont see how they can be good for street with horrible bottom end. Or maybe we are just talking about different cams.
I agree with Aliate X.
Like I said in my previous post, unlike SC engine, NA engines making mega power will make less at low rpm.
And I don't mean any aftermarket cam; as the milder ones are obviously alright for street. Really depends on what you consider "totally streetable". Sure it'll move, but do you have to slip the clutch for an hour just to roll out of a stop sign? And always have to be in a low gear as the engine makes no power at 1500 rpm?
Tell me, the cams that make 600 hp NA, how much torque is available at 1000 rpm? or 1500 rpm? If it's much less than stock, then your sixth gear would be useless for highway cruising with stock gearing.
A 700 hp makes more torque at 1000 rpm than stock. You could lug around at 1500 rpm and it'll pull like a champ.
Like I said in my previous post, unlike SC engine, NA engines making mega power will make less at low rpm.
And I don't mean any aftermarket cam; as the milder ones are obviously alright for street. Really depends on what you consider "totally streetable". Sure it'll move, but do you have to slip the clutch for an hour just to roll out of a stop sign? And always have to be in a low gear as the engine makes no power at 1500 rpm?
Tell me, the cams that make 600 hp NA, how much torque is available at 1000 rpm? or 1500 rpm? If it's much less than stock, then your sixth gear would be useless for highway cruising with stock gearing.
A 700 hp makes more torque at 1000 rpm than stock. You could lug around at 1500 rpm and it'll pull like a champ.
Well, right now my basically stock LS1 is ballless under 2k rpm. but when 2100 on up hits, it pulls like mad. I have driven other cars with different cams and they all seem to start pulling hard around 2500 and just cruising the streets they are very tame and easily putt around. With the lock up style converters, the 3000-3500 stalls are very tight and are like driving on a stock converter. But when you are cruising along at 25-30 mph and drop the hammer, flash the stall, hold on to your *** cause it might get left behind. Also, when the bigger cammed cars can run up 6800 rpm, there is no reason to worry about a shorter powerband. They will pull hard from 2500 up to 6800


