I've decided against the KB turbo cuz i need the extra gas mileage (I will be driving from NE Kansas to Orlando Florida), but now im either thinking of getting the Vortech super, or running 100 shot of nitrous. My question is, which one will be better? By saying better, i mean wich one will be faster, which one will be more reliable, and which one needs fewer mods. I'm probably going to go with the nitrous for right now, and then get the super later, but roughly what will i get int he quarter with the nitrous and all of the other bolt on goodies(headers, throttle body, cold air intake, etc). Also, if i run the 100, what mods will i need (heavier injectors, chip, etc). Thanks, Robert

 

never heard of a kenne bell turbo.

 

oops, i meant super

 

Your gonna need mods for both. For a super you need forged internals and it's prolly a good idea to get em for NOS too. Go for the KB super it's roots style so there is no lag and (unlike NOS) it gives you constant results.

 

I'll help ya out by moving this to the correct forum

 

First off, you wont notice a change in gas mileage unless you're going full throttle.
That's with either blower.

So you can have good mpg w/ the KB if you stay off of it.

As for which is cheaper overall, nitrous of course.
More reliable? Nitrous. No chance for breaking belts or whatnot.
It's just a simple solenoid opening and closeing at the "touch of a button"
Which will be faster? Depends on how much boost you're going to run against that 100 shot.
If you go with a base nitrous kit(enters before TB), you'll see a gain of around 80-85 RWHP and 120+rwtq with that 100 shot.

And you want 1/4 times? Unpredictable. You could run 16's for all we know.
Spinning first, second and third and just going sideways through the traps. The 1/4 Mile is more based upon the first 1/8th of the track.
Every tenth you take off in the first 60' is about equal to two tenths in the 1/4.

And for a street car and a nitrous setup, you may need 24#'s to support that 100 shot. or an AFPR would/should do the trick.
Unsure what the 99+ fuel pump flows so guessing you're fine there.
A flip chip is an absolute must for a street nitrous car.
Having more than one tune, one for NA, and another for a 100 shot or whatever else you want to run.
Key to any form of FI is to get it tuned properly.
Any questions im sure some people would be glad to answer.



Ok, you wont need forged internals if you're planning on staying w/ a conservative amount of boost. Since he's looking at comparing a 100 shot to a blower, guessing you're looking to be running probably around 7-9lbs of boost.
Should be a-ok on stock internals, just be sure to get the A/F and Timing to where it should via dyno or some other monitoring system.
And Kenne Bell doesnt make "roots" blowers, Theyre a Screw blower. Twin Screw to be exact. It gives full boost in the low RPMS all the way to redline.

Now as for Nitrous(NOS!!!)... NOS is a brand name Holley came out with. Nitrous Oxide Systems.
Anyways, for the n2o argument, it will give you constant results. You'll have more money in your pocket when the day's done. Also won't have as much parasitic loss like there is with Superchargers(belt driven) and Turbo's(big fan in the path of your exhaust).
And it just skyrockets your torque!
Don't give the argument that the bottle needs to be refilled... Blowers and Turbo's need to be REBUILT every so often. So there's your coverage there[&:]

 

I was looking around, and this: http://www.lmperformance.com/3663/50.html, NOS Nitrous Direct Port EFI Adj 100-300 hp looks like a pretty sweet system, not to mention it's 3800 dollars cheaper than a KB Super. I am considering running a 150 shot with a progressive controller. How would that KB at 9psi compare to the 150 shot direct port progressive? Also, besides heavier injectors, a chip, and mass air, is there anything else that i will need? One more quick question though, when you say two chips, what do you mean by that? Like when i am planning on using the Nitrous do i need to swap chips vs normal driving or what? I really appreciate all of the help, Robert.

 

I have the same question on a flip chip also. How does it work. And where can i get one?

 

Im not even reading the other posts. I just stopped at this one because the remarks were just so idiotic! You dont HAVE to have forged internals for a blower unless you want to make over 450 to the wheels. You dont need them using N2O unless you are spraying anything over a 150 shot.

The KB IS NOT a roots style blower, its a TWINSCREW! NOS doesnt "Lag". Where in the hell did this t00l come from? Stop putting out info thats incorrect. Go learn what you need to know before you lead people in the opposite direction.

 

He wasnt saying "NOS" lags [8D]
He was saying how the KB's boost is instantaneous.
And then says.
Unlike "NOS" it gives you constant results.


But yes, there's a lot of poor information in this post.

Edit: And about that "two chips" thing.
It's called a Flip Chip.
An aftermarket plugin for your ECU
Just gives you the customization of any other "custom burned" chip.
But allows you to switch through different settings via a dial.

Just so you won't have to run pig rich when you're off the juice just movin about around town.
You can switch through different settings while driving.
So it's quite the piece to have