Guide My Installation: Tools, Technique, Time?
#11
RE: Guide My Installation: Tools, Technique, Time?
ORIGINAL: itchy5
Sleeper,
Were you able to use the Ford flag bolt on the differential bushing for your UCA? The aftermarket UCA's do not have the stop for the flag bolts. Maybe I didn't use enough MAN, but we just couldn't hold the flag end of the bolt well enough to put 129 ft-lbs on the nylock nut.
ORIGINAL: Sleeper_08
This past weekend we installed the Steeda UCA 555-4109, Steeda LCAs 555-4416 and Steeda weld in LCA Reloccation brackets 555-8119 and the difference is amazing.
This past weekend we installed the Steeda UCA 555-4109, Steeda LCAs 555-4416 and Steeda weld in LCA Reloccation brackets 555-8119 and the difference is amazing.
Were you able to use the Ford flag bolt on the differential bushing for your UCA? The aftermarket UCA's do not have the stop for the flag bolts. Maybe I didn't use enough MAN, but we just couldn't hold the flag end of the bolt well enough to put 129 ft-lbs on the nylock nut.
My application is DD, soon to be s/c'd w/ 430rhp, occasional trips (3-4x/yr) to both road & 1/4 mi. tracks.
I have someone who will trade me a Steeda UCA (Adjustable Street Upper Control Arm 3rd Link, p/n 555-4105) or Steeda LCA's (Billet Rear Control Arms p/n 555-4405 - not adjustable???) for my BMR Strut Tower Brace.
Is this a good trade?
My Strut tower for either an Adj. UCA or LCAs?
Please advise quick!
#12
RE: Guide My Installation: Tools, Technique, Time?
My vote is yes for either. If you are already lowered, your LCA's are probably sloping the wrong direction (Mounting point on the chassis is lower than the mounting point on the axle) This is bad for handling and also makes the car squat on acceleration. So you will need some LCA relocation brackets.
The weld in kind are nice, but a real PITA. I would have paid someone to put them in for me, had I realized how difficult it is to make sure the rear axle is square before welding.We made many checks with the tape measure and used straps to hold things in place, but wewere still off by 0.15 degrees.Howeve, well within the ford spec of 3.0 degrees, but not perfect. For all I know, it might have been off from the factory. But, I was in too much of a hurry and didn't check before removing things.
The UCA has a poly bushing, which is more firm than the stock rubber bushing. That piece should prevent wheel hop, and also allow you to set your pinion angle
The weld in kind are nice, but a real PITA. I would have paid someone to put them in for me, had I realized how difficult it is to make sure the rear axle is square before welding.We made many checks with the tape measure and used straps to hold things in place, but wewere still off by 0.15 degrees.Howeve, well within the ford spec of 3.0 degrees, but not perfect. For all I know, it might have been off from the factory. But, I was in too much of a hurry and didn't check before removing things.
The UCA has a poly bushing, which is more firm than the stock rubber bushing. That piece should prevent wheel hop, and also allow you to set your pinion angle
#14
RE: Guide My Installation: Tools, Technique, Time?
ORIGINAL: crazystylin
Shouldn't I wait and find/purchase adjustable lower controls arms? I am thinking the adj. UCA is not as necessary for my application.
Shouldn't I wait and find/purchase adjustable lower controls arms? I am thinking the adj. UCA is not as necessary for my application.
After installing mine (absolute total PITA to install) I realize all of the effort was worth it as the combination of the UCA 555-4109 and poly/poly LCAs and weld in LCA relocation brackets has eliminated axle hop even with my SC.
#15
RE: Guide My Installation: Tools, Technique, Time?
ORIGINAL: itchy5
Sleeper,
Were you able to use the Ford flag bolt on the differential bushing for your UCA? The aftermarket UCA's do not have the stop for the flag bolts. Maybe I didn't use enough MAN, but we just couldn't hold the flag end of the bolt well enough to put 129 ft-lbs on the nylock nut.
ORIGINAL: Sleeper_08
This past weekend we installed the Steeda UCA 555-4109, Steeda LCAs 555-4416 and Steeda weld in LCA Reloccation brackets 555-8119 and the difference is amazing.
This past weekend we installed the Steeda UCA 555-4109, Steeda LCAs 555-4416 and Steeda weld in LCA Reloccation brackets 555-8119 and the difference is amazing.
Were you able to use the Ford flag bolt on the differential bushing for your UCA? The aftermarket UCA's do not have the stop for the flag bolts. Maybe I didn't use enough MAN, but we just couldn't hold the flag end of the bolt well enough to put 129 ft-lbs on the nylock nut.
#16
RE: Guide My Installation: Tools, Technique, Time?
ORIGINAL: Sleeper_08
There are a lot of threads here talking about the Steeda UCA. Do a search for F1Fan's comment.
After installing mine (absolute total PITA to install) I realize all of the effort was worth it as the combination of the UCA 555-4109 and poly/poly LCAs and weld in LCA relocation brackets has eliminated axle hop even with my SC.
ORIGINAL: crazystylin
Shouldn't I wait and find/purchase adjustable lower controls arms? I am thinking the adj. UCA is not as necessary for my application.
Shouldn't I wait and find/purchase adjustable lower controls arms? I am thinking the adj. UCA is not as necessary for my application.
After installing mine (absolute total PITA to install) I realize all of the effort was worth it as the combination of the UCA 555-4109 and poly/poly LCAs and weld in LCA relocation brackets has eliminated axle hop even with my SC.
I love a satisfied customer! LOL! Yes a total PITA to installbut as you have found an effective piece of fabrication no? Gotta love Steeda's design, engineering and fabrication even if the price initially appearsto be a bit higher than the other lesser parts out there.
Cheers!
#17
RE: Guide My Installation: Tools, Technique, Time?
OK, so I think that I am going to trade my BMR strut tower brace bar and $170 for Steeda LCA's and a Steeda adj. UCA.
However, I am intimidated by hearing all the PITA comments re: installing the UCA. Because I am novice, maybe I will let a pro do that part. But I will at least give it a shot.
However, I am intimidated by hearing all the PITA comments re: installing the UCA. Because I am novice, maybe I will let a pro do that part. But I will at least give it a shot.
#18
RE: Guide My Installation: Tools, Technique, Time?
ORIGINAL: Sleeper_08
We did up so many bolts over two days I am not sure but think we got that one to 129 ft lb but it was not easy. We used a new bolt and flag nut and blue loctite.
ORIGINAL: itchy5
Sleeper,
Were you able to use the Ford flag bolt on the differential bushing for your UCA? The aftermarket UCA's do not have the stop for the flag bolts. Maybe I didn't use enough MAN, but we just couldn't hold the flag end of the bolt well enough to put 129 ft-lbs on the nylock nut.
ORIGINAL: Sleeper_08
This past weekend we installed the Steeda UCA 555-4109, Steeda LCAs 555-4416 and Steeda weld in LCA Reloccation brackets 555-8119 and the difference is amazing.
This past weekend we installed the Steeda UCA 555-4109, Steeda LCAs 555-4416 and Steeda weld in LCA Reloccation brackets 555-8119 and the difference is amazing.
Were you able to use the Ford flag bolt on the differential bushing for your UCA? The aftermarket UCA's do not have the stop for the flag bolts. Maybe I didn't use enough MAN, but we just couldn't hold the flag end of the bolt well enough to put 129 ft-lbs on the nylock nut.
Sleeper,
I have a new flag bolt and extra nylock nut, next week when I get back under the car to check all the torques and double check the pinion angle and rear axle centering, I'll try to install it and do a better job holding the flag nut.
#19
RE: Guide My Installation: Tools, Technique, Time?
In what order should the install be done?
1. Remove sway bar, remove PH Bar, remove rear shocks
2. Install UCA
3. Install LCAs
4. Install Shocks
5. Install PH Bar
6. Install Sway bar
Sound about right? Start with hardest install first?
1. Remove sway bar, remove PH Bar, remove rear shocks
2. Install UCA
3. Install LCAs
4. Install Shocks
5. Install PH Bar
6. Install Sway bar
Sound about right? Start with hardest install first?
#20
RE: Guide My Installation: Tools, Technique, Time?
so far so good.
PH Bar - OEM removed, new one installed. Easy as apple pie.
Sway Bar - OEM removed. Will install new bar last. Very easy.
Rear shocks are giving me a hard time as they won't unbolt from the top - when I am torqueing to loosen the whole assembly rotates. So I will try a to use two tools to loosen it.
Up next:
1. Get top bolts to rear shocks off, and install Tokico shocks
2. Remove & Install Steeda LCAs
3. Remove & Install UCA
4. Install Sway
5. adjust PHbar & UCA.
6. Remove front struts, install Tokico fronts.
7. Drive it in the mountains!
PH Bar - OEM removed, new one installed. Easy as apple pie.
Sway Bar - OEM removed. Will install new bar last. Very easy.
Rear shocks are giving me a hard time as they won't unbolt from the top - when I am torqueing to loosen the whole assembly rotates. So I will try a to use two tools to loosen it.
Up next:
1. Get top bolts to rear shocks off, and install Tokico shocks
2. Remove & Install Steeda LCAs
3. Remove & Install UCA
4. Install Sway
5. adjust PHbar & UCA.
6. Remove front struts, install Tokico fronts.
7. Drive it in the mountains!