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Old May 20, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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It's not hard to make an S197 a very good handling car, even with a solid axle. I don't particularly think you need to re-engineer the wheel, nor do I think that struts are automatically bad. I mean all those lousy Porsche GT3 RSR's you see running LeMans are strut cars--and they don't suck.

Opinions are like ********, everyone has one. Instead of saying "how do I make it act like a Porsche" I find it more advisable to identify how you'd like to see the car change. My lame (but true) statement is that parts are the car equivilent to antibiotics. They work to cure ills. I can't think of a Doctor worth a damn who will randomly prescribe meds you don't need. But most who sell parts do exactly that. I'm not one of those, I'd rather the right tool for job is used so the best result for what you want is gotten--then we see where we are and proceed from there is need be.

Dampers are the most important part of the suspension. Then you are talking about springs and swaybars. From there various parts do various things, good and bad for different situations (and you have to watch for bad interactions between various parts too).
Old May 20, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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Well, only reason I was aiming at Porsche is because that is only car I've tracked, and I loved it. I know it's easy to get a Mustang to out handle the Porsche but part of my goal is to have a comfortable ride. Porsche has what I like to call the beauty and beast trait, beast when you want it to be a beauty when you want it to do that.

I was thinking about a set of dampers I could adjust from a **** in my car, but then SLA came up, and I talked to Rodeo about it, he tells me it has best of both worlds, better track ride, and better street ride. Which is what I am looking for.

Strano if you have a setup that can do this please tell me.

BTW: What DOT4 fluid would you recommend I'm on my second set of rotors, and it's my second year having this car lol, I'ma prolly upgrade after I burn through this set.

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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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I think stock the weight distribution is approx 53-47 about. It takes quite a bit to get it to 50/50.
Old May 20, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Something like 100 lbs in the trunk via subs/amps/speakers and 100 lbs off the front via ss headers, CAI, motor mounts, carbon fiber hood, lighter springs/shocks, rad mount etc?? It's possible...
Old May 20, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rubrignitz
I understand the downfalls of the SRA car. To be truthful, one of the reasons I purchased a mustang was the SRA. It's strong, cheap, and easy to replace (like the other parts on this car).

But doesn't the S197 have a nearly 50/50 f/r weight ratio? I looked at the GT500's and decided on a base GT because of the (much) superior f/r weight ratio (not to mention cost, parts, etc). I don't "need" 500whp for what I do with the car.

I've also removed a good deal of weight from the front of my car. I should be nearly if not, 50/50 right?
Here are some actual values;
1) June 2009 Motor Trend article 2010 Mustang Gt with Track Pack curb weight is 3,572 lb with a 53/47 F/R weight distribution. That works out to 1,893 lbs F and 1,679 R for a difference of 214 lbs.

2) Road & Track 2010 Mustang GT 3,590 curb weight with 53/47 F/R with driver

3) Road & Track 2005 Mustang GT curb weight is 3,510 with 54/46 F/R for 280 lb more on the front end

4) Road & Track Shelby GT500 Super Snake 3,915 curb weight with 56/44 F/R with driver

The road and track data panels are at http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=5725
Old May 20, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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After looking over those figures it looks like I'm in a worse way with the 07'. Seems they beefed the 07's/GT500s more than I thought. The track pak on the 10's must have dropped some weight.
Old May 20, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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So I may be 52/48 on a good day ? I'll take it.
Old May 20, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
It's not hard to make an S197 a very good handling car, even with a solid axle. I don't particularly think you need to re-engineer the wheel, nor do I think that struts are automatically bad. I mean all those lousy Porsche GT3 RSR's you see running LeMans are strut cars--and they don't suck.
You can jiggle the steering wheel back and forth on a Porsche GT3 in street spec while going 100 mph on a straight away and it will move 3 car widths without any tires screeching and almost no body roll.

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Old May 20, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ahddm

Strano if you have a setup that can do this please tell me.
I don't know if Sam does but I do. My car pulls 1.18g average on a tacky track, My dad was injured while doing motocross and has a bad back to the point where he can't ride in a normal BMW. However my car gets no complaints from him. I get constant comments from many passengers about how the ride is amazingly soft on my car. I've taken a few 8 hour trips with the hard Saleen sports seats no problem.
Old May 20, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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Please inform me

1.18 G Is massive wow.

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