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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 11:07 AM
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I have done some searching around for info on this kit from CDC and cannot seem to find the info I am looking for. Does anyone know what the spring rates are for this kit? I saw two different numbers posted, and are the dampers any different from the dampers found in the real FRPP kit. I purchased just the dampers as I was told by CDC they were identical to the FRPP dampers and the springs are FRPP P springs which I found out they are definitely not. I want to use a different spring but I'm not sure how much spring these dampers can handle.

I'm trying to do my setup on a budget which is now less than I planned. This was one reason why I chose these dampers. Koni's would have been the obvious choice but I chose to spend my money on my daughter which is more important.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 09:55 AM
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Wow no responses. Maybe the s197 handling section would be better.
Old Jan 6, 2013 | 07:55 AM
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Ooops... been caught up in some things and not been by here

Yes... the S197 Handling Performance section would be better and will re-direct this over there now.

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Why not just buy the FRPP complete suspension from Ford? Erik
Old Jan 6, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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BMR springs are a great linear rate spring, I can't remember off the top of my head but 160lbs front and 180lbs rear for the spring rate on these? Might be less for the rear, these dampers would handle these just fine. What type of drop are you looking for? What are goals for this car? Are the dampers from CDC the 05-10 dampers? If so you'll need the 05-09 strut mounts in order to fit your 12. New strut mounts won't hurt anyways and depending on drop you'll need to correct the camber. Send me an email since you can't PM yet at info@hypermotiveperformance.com if you have any other questions.

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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 08:34 AM
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Why not just buy the FRPP complete suspension from Ford? Erik
Don't want the whole kit and I don't really like the springs.
Old Jan 7, 2013 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay@Hypermotive
BMR springs are a great linear rate spring, I can't remember off the top of my head but 160lbs front and 180lbs rear for the spring rate on these? Might be less for the rear, these dampers would handle these just fine. What type of drop are you looking for? What are goals for this car? Are the dampers from CDC the 05-10 dampers? If so you'll need the 05-09 strut mounts in order to fit your 12. New strut mounts won't hurt anyways and depending on drop you'll need to correct the camber. Send me an email since you can't PM yet at info@hypermotiveperformance.com if you have any other questions.

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These are the CDC dampers and yes I will be getting the gt500 mounts. The BMR springs have a Linear working rate and are 165F/160R. I have thought about these springs but I'm thinking the rates are a bit on the soft side for a Brembo pkg. car, maybe I'm wrong. The car is my daily driver no track time just a fun car. The BMR's list a 1 inch front drop and the rears are 1.25 but the pics and post I have seen look like they drop more than this. I have been considering Hotchkis which are 180/180 rates and Steeda springs, still trying to figure things out. I really only want about an inch in front and 1.25 or so out back.

Thanks for the response!
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I've ran hotchkis on all my cars, great springs!!
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By far the springs I use most are Steeda Sport (one of the two versions only) which are 200/175 and Steeda Ultralite (basically working rates around 225/200). The 160-180 kind of stuff is a joke, especially on a lowered car. I mean stock rates in some cases can match or even exceed that without being lowered which means, in short you end up using the bumpstops as defacto spring rate quite a lot more than I think is smart.

As for the dampers... Well, the FRPP dampers had good rebound, but ride like total *** and toss the car around because they are very high in compression (too high). If you got anything similar to those, I'm sorry. I'd tell you at minimum a set of Koni STR.T, which are $405 a set and carry a lifetime warranty too. They are good for stock replacement and can damp mild lowering springs quite well. Lots of guys here have them. One man just put some his 2012 with stock springs and called me Friday and told me how much better and more planted the car was driving. That's what we want from a non-adjustable upgrade. Of course adding the adjustment like a Koni Sport has allows you more tuning, more change in feel and response (roll and pitch rate). Not sure you need that, I'll guarantee a set of STR.T's are vastly superior to anything FRPP FR3 or less.
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
By far the springs I use most are Steeda Sport (one of the two versions only) which are 200/175 and Steeda Ultralite (basically working rates around 225/200). The 160-180 kind of stuff is a joke, especially on a lowered car. I mean stock rates in some cases can match or even exceed that without being lowered which means, in short you end up using the bumpstops as defacto spring rate quite a lot more than I think is smart.

As for the dampers... Well, the FRPP dampers had good rebound, but ride like total *** and toss the car around because they are very high in compression (too high). If you got anything similar to those, I'm sorry. I'd tell you at minimum a set of Koni STR.T, which are $405 a set and carry a lifetime warranty too. They are good for stock replacement and can damp mild lowering springs quite well. Lots of guys here have them. One man just put some his 2012 with stock springs and called me Friday and told me how much better and more planted the car was driving. That's what we want from a non-adjustable upgrade. Of course adding the adjustment like a Koni Sport has allows you more tuning, more change in feel and response (roll and pitch rate). Not sure you need that, I'll guarantee a set of STR.T's are vastly superior to anything FRPP FR3 or less.
Sam I have come across many threads of yours while doing research and find you provide a lot of valuable info, so thank you.

I kind blew my budget a bit and cheaped out on the dampers and I know the Koni's are better you don't have to sell me on that. I got these at a really good price. From what I have been able to tell but I'm not 100% sure still is these dampers are valved different, softer, but what that means I dunno and without testing them I will never truly know. I wish I could test them. I found one person who used these dampers with the steeda ultralights and his comments were they were not as harsh as the FRPP kit but that's only one persons view. I know you get what you pay for so...

Anyway Steeda sports are still on my radar so we shall see. If you had to recommend either of the Steeda springs I'm guessing it would be the sports?



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