It's a Dodge Calibur, the new SRT-4, and it will be 300hp/ 300tq, no chance for us lol, its not heavy at all.

The smallest Magnum engine is a 2.7 six, so they wouldn't make an SRT-4 Magnum. A guy as work has a 2.7 Magnum and all he does is say how slow it is, lol. 190 hp/190tq in a 3900lb car, jeebus []

 

my bad always mix calibur and magnum :P but check this out http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/...-and-sluggish/

 

Yeah, but thats the r/t, and it is sluggish at 172hp/ 165tq and a 0-60 time over 10 secs...but 300hp is alot different from 172, and 300tq is worlds from 165. I've heard the Calibur SRT-4 will be a mid-high 13 car, which makes sense as its lighter then a T and has much the same power. Ugly as sin though.

 

I understand HP is way higher...but torque...260 on the GT...240 for us...Isn't that really the deciding factor for the short races? If what I'm seeing on here is true then people are pretty easily getting 20 hp gains with a CAI, tune, headers...etc...What does that translate to in torque gain?

Also...I would consider the Eclipse GT a direct price competitor to a V6. 23k for a base model vs 20k for a base model? 3k difference doesn't put it in a different price point in my book. Add upgrades and you're up into the 26 to 27 range...which is what you're paying for the upgrades to the v6 as well (understand you can buy a baseline GT for that also...but I'm doing v6 comparison here). I don't know...looks like the Eclipse GT out-priced us to me. Especially when you consider that most of us are adding another 4-5k for addons.

And as far as the Neon srt-4...yeah they beat us stock for the hp and torque but barely...I'm sure they're considerably lighter than ours so I imagine that's what gives it it's 14 second times and whatnot...But man it's frusterating because they're just cheap cars at 18k. Ugly as sin in my opinion, but its frusterating to have such a HUGE engine and be competing with 2.4 liter v4. And did somebody say the Cobalt would beat us?? I'm seeing 205 hp for the supercharged SS...missing something?

I'm not complaining about my car, I love it...wouldn't trade it for the world (figure of speech of course), as far as pure sexiness you can't beat it. But it doesn't make me want to go to the track. I think I'll just stick to cruising...

 

+1

 

I like SRT4's simply because of the MOPAR upgrades. You can get the car up to 355 HP without voiding your warranty (stage 3 turbo + intercooler sprayer, dial-a-boost). That's a whale of a car for the money. Also have lots of suspension upgrades, but after you go through those the car starts to weigh the same as a mustang. I kinda like caliburs, but I doubt I'd get one.

The cobalt SS i have a soft spot for. Which would be cheaper, insurance on a v6 mustang or a SRT4/Cobalt SS? I'm just curious whether it's engine size or stock HP that determine the insurance rate.

 

you forgot some cars. mini cooper S, honda civic Si, VW golf GTI. all so ugly i would buy a 150 hp mustang over all of them.

 

I've already pointed that out on several past threads about "why does this V6 make more power than us" or "smaller V6 import makes more HP than us, why?"

Eclipse V6 is what? 26k-28k? Even a Honda Civic Si is 20k+

 

That's why I said, IF s/he can drive...

All the mags are conservative. So the Eclipse is probably capable of 5.8-5.9 0-60 and 14.3-14.4 1/4 miles and the 4.0 stang is probably good for 6.6-6.7 0-60 and 15.0-15.1 quarter. Still slower with equal driver.

 

The Cobalt will beat us stock for stock, it runs mid 14's easily, the 205 hp is underrated most dyno that to the wheels stock, and also due to the s/c, they have a good amount of tq. And they're about 500lbs lighter...the downside being it's an ugly cookie cutter POS FWD econobox dressed up with a laughable boy-racer spoiler strapped to it.

The SRT-4 is even better, performance wise, low 14's out of the box and it takes to mods like water. The negative is the same as the Cobalt. The SRT-4's a fast POS but in the end it's still a Neon and a POS.

And hp still matters in a short race, else we'd be losing to diesel Jettas that are chipped, and they have more tq, and weigh less..