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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by amcquinn86


I believe it was Car and Driver that said something to the effect of "You will not get these times in this car. We had to drop the clutch at 8,000 rpm in order to achieve decent times." The engines just don't produce a lot of torque. I wouldn't ever buy an RX-8 because they lied about their HP ratings by a significant amount. I also can't stand the rear half door crap. Every time I see one the car looks longer and more ***** like. Oh, and the whole automatic makes less HP than the manual. I mean, I'd only get a manual, but I hate it when car companies make cookie cutter cars. Just like Manual tranny Pathfinders can't have leather too. Glad I ordered my car with what I wanted, not what the car company thought was a good package of options.</P>

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First off, DAMN you're late. Second, did you read ANY of the posts before this? Mazda didn't lie about the horsepower. They aren't "half doors," they're suicide doors. They're pretty much fullsize. </P>
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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Actually, yes, I did read all of the previous posts. I didn't analyze all of them with a microscope, but I read all of them. The only one that said anything about Car and Driver testing was this:
Originally Posted by mdvaldosta


RX8's run low 14's stock at the track all day long and run mid 5's 0-60, about the same as a stock mustang. If your car is a "POS" than one would assume its not running well, hence it was safe to say the RX8 shoulda had u if all other things were equal. Im not a ricer by any means, but I watched a Car and Driver show when they flogged one of those, and I was impressed. </p>


Oh, and I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night...</p>

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I read the post about the engine not working to its full potential because the front wheels aren't turning on a dyno, but Mazda is offering to buy back the cars, so they are admitting that there vehicle did not live up to their original statements. I was just saying that I wouldn't buy it because of those things. It's one thing to correct someone, but to just be sarcastic and rude when they are trying to add their own thoughts to something is what makes this forum suck now. I have not visited this forum in a while, and I probably won't anymore because everyone has to be such a jerk and then there is so much rice on here detracting from posts (I'm not talking about GSRGUY18 specifically. I thought that he used to actually help people and not be a jerk off like a lot of the import guys on here, but the rice on here makes every thread turn into an import - domestic battle.) To those who have helped me and have been nice to talk to, I thank you.

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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 01:21 AM
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Done crying? You said Mazda LIED about the horsepower, and they didn't. And you complained about small rear doors, when the other cars in it's class don't even HAVE rear doors. Stop nitpicking and whining, and there will be no problems. It's a damn good car, period.
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by amcquinn86


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there is so much rice on here detracting from posts (I'm not talking about GSRGUY18 specifically. I thought that he used to actually help people and not be a jerk off like a lot of the import guys on here, but the rice on here makes every thread turn into an import - domestic battle
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yeah...darn us ricers. wow, i love how people generalize like this <IMG src=smileys/smiley11.gif border="0">. </P>
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GSRGuy18
Done crying? You said Mazda LIED about the horsepower, and they didn't. And you complained about small rear doors, when the other cars in it's class don't even HAVE rear doors. Stop nitpicking and whining, and there will be no problems. It's a damn good car, period.
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They didn't flat out lie, the overestimated it...how about that?</P>


Mazda put out a release that changed the official hp numbers to 238 hp. Before they claimed like 276 or something.</P>


Like I said on the previous page.... the reason people didn't dyno the numbers is one, it didn't make 276 and two, there's wheel sensors at all four corners, when you dyno a car you don't have airflow over the wheels, and when you don't have the airflow, you won't be able to WOT the car. It's a program they installed on the 8 to keep the engine from overheating the catalytic converter when not driving at speed. <IMG src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0"></P><edited><editID>own3dbyyou</editID><editDate>38019.0261226852</editDate></edited>
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 02:43 AM
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is there any way to trick the sensor?
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 03:17 AM
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Roll your car up onto the dyno and put a big fan by all four of them I guess. <IMG src=smileys/smiley5.gif border="0">
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by own3dbyyou


Originally Posted by GSRGuy18
Done crying? You said Mazda LIED about the horsepower, and they didn't. And you complained about small rear doors, when the other cars in it's class don't even HAVE rear doors. Stop nitpicking and whining, and there will be no problems. It's a damn good car, period.
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They didn't flat out lie, the overestimated it...how about that?</P>


Mazda put out a release that changed the official hp numbers to 238 hp. Before they claimed like 276 or something.</P>


Like I said on the previous page.... the reason people didn't dyno the numbers is one, it didn't make 276 and two, there's wheel sensors at all four corners, when you dyno a car you don't have airflow over the wheels, and when you don't have the airflow, you won't be able to WOT the car. It's a program they installed on the 8 to keep the engine from overheating the catalytic converter when not driving at speed. <IMG src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0"></P>

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It was initially rated at 255hp</P>
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 04:14 AM
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Either way...they overestimated it.
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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Actaully from what i understand they didnt overestimate them one bit. Go to a J-Spec RX8 and you will get 255 hp. For those of you that dont know this, rotary engines have to be tuned down, to where they dont run at their best to have a hope of passing emissions in america. Also the addition of cats and all the emissions stuff is what made the car not reach the 255.



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