Me vs 97 Cobra
03-08-2008, 06:45 PM
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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra
I don't particularly care much what I top out at, I was more questioning the claimed 305HP on a 97 vert cobra.. They have a 4V do they not? I'd like to think Ford's advanced at least a LITTLE in it's 4V technology in the 7 yrs between 97 and 04.. LOL
03-08-2008, 07:31 PM
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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra
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OP you're meaning 305hp at the flywheel right? I didn't think the 97 verts had that much power to the wheels.. A guy I work with has a 97 Cobra coupe and I took him by almost 2 lengths at the strip in the 1/4, and I had trouble getting the Mach past 150 stock with 285RWHP.. I'd definitely agree that his top speed would be 135/140, I just think he's not quite running that much power, UNLESS he's modded and didn't tell you maybe?
OP you're meaning 305hp at the flywheel right? I didn't think the 97 verts had that much power to the wheels.. A guy I work with has a 97 Cobra coupe and I took him by almost 2 lengths at the strip in the 1/4, and I had trouble getting the Mach past 150 stock with 285RWHP.. I'd definitely agree that his top speed would be 135/140, I just think he's not quite running that much power, UNLESS he's modded and didn't tell you maybe?
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who cares how high a car tops out most people don't race to top speed.
who cares how high a car tops out most people don't race to top speed.
03-08-2008, 07:51 PM
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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra
Ahhhh.. still, that DOES sound a little high even at the flywheel, because that would mean that ford didn't change the 4V at ALL between 97 and 03/04 when the mach's came out.. I had always thought that the mach's had a little more power stock than the 95-98 cobra's did.. [&o]Maybe I was wrong though, who knows.. I just know I haven't lost to a stocker cobra from those years before.. not saying it COULDN'T happen, I'm just of a mind that a stocker mach would've had the advantage there..
03-08-2008, 08:11 PM
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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra
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Ahhhh.. still, that DOES sound a little high even at the flywheel, because that would mean that ford didn't change the 4V at ALL between 97 and 03/04 when the mach's came out.. I had always thought that the mach's had a little more power stock than the 95-98 cobra's did.. [&o]Maybe I was wrong though, who knows.. I just know I haven't lost to a stocker cobra from those years before.. not saying it COULDN'T happen, I'm just of a mind that a stocker mach would've had the advantage there..
Ahhhh.. still, that DOES sound a little high even at the flywheel, because that would mean that ford didn't change the 4V at ALL between 97 and 03/04 when the mach's came out.. I had always thought that the mach's had a little more power stock than the 95-98 cobra's did.. [&o]Maybe I was wrong though, who knows.. I just know I haven't lost to a stocker cobra from those years before.. not saying it COULDN'T happen, I'm just of a mind that a stocker mach would've had the advantage there..
http://home.pon.net/hunnicutt/97CobraSpecs.htm
http://www.muscularmustangs.com/2005/svtcobraspec97.php
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/1997/...pecifications/
03-08-2008, 08:27 PM
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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra
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I don't know anything about those 97 Stangs or Cobras, but from internet searches this is what I got. Check the links below. I thought 305/300 was kind of low for a Cobra myself..lol.
http://home.pon.net/hunnicutt/97CobraSpecs.htm
http://www.muscularmustangs.com/2005/svtcobraspec97.php
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/1997/...pecifications/
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Ahhhh.. still, that DOES sound a little high even at the flywheel, because that would mean that ford didn't change the 4V at ALL between 97 and 03/04 when the mach's came out.. I had always thought that the mach's had a little more power stock than the 95-98 cobra's did.. [&o]Maybe I was wrong though, who knows.. I just know I haven't lost to a stocker cobra from those years before.. not saying it COULDN'T happen, I'm just of a mind that a stocker mach would've had the advantage there..
Ahhhh.. still, that DOES sound a little high even at the flywheel, because that would mean that ford didn't change the 4V at ALL between 97 and 03/04 when the mach's came out.. I had always thought that the mach's had a little more power stock than the 95-98 cobra's did.. [&o]Maybe I was wrong though, who knows.. I just know I haven't lost to a stocker cobra from those years before.. not saying it COULDN'T happen, I'm just of a mind that a stocker mach would've had the advantage there..
http://home.pon.net/hunnicutt/97CobraSpecs.htm
http://www.muscularmustangs.com/2005/svtcobraspec97.php
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/1997/...pecifications/
Still, ANY 4V engine is a good platform, the 97 Cobra's included.. the problem is getting it to put all that power on the road..
03-08-2008, 09:00 PM
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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra
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Yeah the guy must admitted to 135-140 being his top speed. No way something 305/300 was doing 155 stock, lol. Unless it was light as a feather! So what do you guys think will happen if I race this guy? Digg, Roll, what?
Yeah the guy must admitted to 135-140 being his top speed. No way something 305/300 was doing 155 stock, lol. Unless it was light as a feather! So what do you guys think will happen if I race this guy? Digg, Roll, what?
03-08-2008, 09:04 PM
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RE: Me vs 97 Cobra
Yea, hp plays some part in top speed, but gearing and aerodynamics play just as much.
I'm sure you could get a fox with 210 hp to the 140's, and I know new edges do 145-150.
As for the improvement of the 4V's from '96-'98 and '03-'03 in the Machs
the Mach 1 is a bit underrated from a couple of sources i have seen.
They also improved the power band.. they might only make max hp around 305 or so, but they are a lot beefier throughout the midrange.
Thats why you see quarter miles in high high 13's sometimes for a SN-Cobra, and the occasional low 13 in a Mach
I'm sure you could get a fox with 210 hp to the 140's, and I know new edges do 145-150.
As for the improvement of the 4V's from '96-'98 and '03-'03 in the Machs
the Mach 1 is a bit underrated from a couple of sources i have seen.
They also improved the power band.. they might only make max hp around 305 or so, but they are a lot beefier throughout the midrange.
Thats why you see quarter miles in high high 13's sometimes for a SN-Cobra, and the occasional low 13 in a Mach