4.0 VS Prelude VS TSX
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From: NoDak
We raced from a stoplight and I had him all the way there easily, and from a 40 roll and I got him really good there too... maybe he's just a bad driver??
Eitherway I would never put money into a TSX or something like that because I would imagine after you put the parts in the car they are of little value when you wanna sell it. And 5K for such little horsepower to me seems outrageous
I'm going to try to call up my friend with the Prelude and see if he wants to go for a 'spin' later today. I'll also give my friend with the Audi 3.2 a call and see if he wants to come for a spin. Now where do I tell my gf I'm going?! :P
Eitherway I would never put money into a TSX or something like that because I would imagine after you put the parts in the car they are of little value when you wanna sell it. And 5K for such little horsepower to me seems outrageous
I'm going to try to call up my friend with the Prelude and see if he wants to go for a 'spin' later today. I'll also give my friend with the Audi 3.2 a call and see if he wants to come for a spin. Now where do I tell my gf I'm going?! :P
Again, the improvement to the car's entire torquecurve and powerband aren't being considered. And it doesn't matter if he supercharges his car. Acuras/Hondas don't lose value. Period. Unless it's a complete hackjob, or the car is modded to the point of being unstreetable, it's value will still hold.
And btw, as for the Audi, if he's a decent driver, he should get you. Do you know what year it is?? Also, manual or auto, fwd or awd???
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I'll agree w/ you on the price issue, however, all that's being looked at is peak hp gain. And everyone in this section of the forum should know that means diddly-squat. The gains the car will pick up throughout the entire powerband will be considerable, especially the low end. And of course, that is the area in Honda engines that most needs improvede upon. And as said, you can be sure that is on an otherwise stock engine. A good tune and bolt-ons would make that TSX a very healthy car. Granted it would't be raping Mach 1's or LS1's or anything, but still....
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Depends on where you want to make power I guess. Superchargers are more useable around town I'd say, whereas Turbos make more peak power. I'm definitely no expert on FI though!! I'm still trying to decide which route to take on my SI.
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Well given a choice of a supercharger that makes 35 more peak HP vs a turbo that makes 100 peak for the same coin. I'd think it would be a no brainer to most. Just use the cobalt SS for example. It couldn't break out of the 14s with the stock supercharger at 10psi but as soon as you slap the turbo on it's in the 13s. It's just retarded to spend 5 grand on 35HP.
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Thats true, BB. Do the turbo SS and the previous SC/SS put out the same PSI? What about tuning differences, etc. I ask because the Comptech SC and the turbonetics and Greddy Turbo kits for my SI both put out 230whp at 4-6psi on a otherwise stock car, and 250whp at 8psi plus intake/header. Those are only peak numbers of course, how each kit performs is very different, I'm sure.
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From: NoDak
Well given a choice of a supercharger that makes 35 more peak HP vs a turbo that makes 100 peak for the same coin. I'd think it would be a no brainer to most. Just use the cobalt SS for example. It couldn't break out of the 14s with the stock supercharger at 10psi but as soon as you slap the turbo on it's in the 13s. It's just retarded to spend 5 grand on 35HP.
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Damn, that reminds me. I just automatically assumed he meant an A4. But the TT, A3, A4, and A6 all came w/ the 3.2 V6. If it's an A6 or A4 he might have a chance. A3 would be a tough one to win. TT would take a big screwup on the Audi's part.
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What do the 4.0 S197s run stock? High 14s, low 15s?
A supercharged (low boost) TSX is good for a high 13 with nothing else done, so full bolt ons, tune, 4.10s, and DRs ought to take care of it on the track, but I doubt those mods will take him rolling..... if you're even into roll races that is.
A supercharged (low boost) TSX is good for a high 13 with nothing else done, so full bolt ons, tune, 4.10s, and DRs ought to take care of it on the track, but I doubt those mods will take him rolling..... if you're even into roll races that is.