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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Kmoran81
Why not race a lincoln? My winter car is an 02 Cadillac STS with a 300hp Northstar. Thing hauls ***
I remember the 4.6L northstars in the sevilles of that year only put out 275BHP... I'm curious what changes they made to make the STS version have 300BHP... other than a more aggressive tune anyways

if only they took the engine and put it in a RWD lighter car... then I think cadillac might have been cooking with gas!
Old Feb 10, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Morbid Intentions
I remember the 4.6L north stars in the sevilles of that year only put out 275BHP... I'm curious what changes they made to make the STS version have 300BHP... other than a more aggressive tune anyways

if only they took the engine and put it in a RWD lighter car... then I think cadillac might have been cooking with gas!
They did the corvette cadillac Rear wheel drive north star. First time i think they used that motor for R/W drive. lol
Old Feb 10, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by droptop302
They did the corvette cadillac Rear wheel drive north star. First time i think they used that motor for R/W drive. lol
true, but the XLR is a different ballgame.. at least I think so anyways

I'm just curious what makes the L37 different then the LD8 other than a more aggressive tune... unless the tune is all that differenciates

I think the XLR northstar is a completely different engine as far as being completely redesigned to produce more horsepower although I don't remember if they changed the engine name or just kept it a "L37"

long story short... the XLR produces 320BHP with a 4.6L northstar, the seville produced 275BHP with a 4.6L northstar and the STS produced 300BHP with a 4.6L northstar, I'm curious as to what is changed to the block/tuning for the power levels to fluxuate like that

curious to learn if someone knows
Old Feb 11, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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maybe it's from different cams??? idk, i'm just taking a stab in the dark on this one. i'll see if i can find anything though

edit: ok, i can explain the power difference in the XLR Northstar. compression was bumped to 10.5:1 over the 10:1 of the L37 and LD8

and the tune is the only difference between the L37 and LD8

the LD8 was tuned more as a sedate engine for cruising, while the L37 was tuned more as a performance engine

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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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Driver mod FTMFW. I edged a Z out in my A4 from a dig once. Just a short little sprint w/ some young douche who couldn't launch or shift to save his life. Meh, what can you do....
Old Feb 13, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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That Lincoln is a BEAST!!! I have been in it!
Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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Eh....I'd give it a run in the Grand Prix I bought for my gf a few months back...

Lincoln FTL!!!



I mean, we all know how weak those f/i 3.8's are in the GM line.
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 98LS1
Eh....I'd give it a run in the Grand Prix I bought for my gf a few months back...

Lincoln FTL!!!



I mean, we all know how weak those f/i 3.8's are in the GM line.
I beat a GXP (which is faster than the GTP version) by 2 car lengths on a 0-100 sprint from a stop light.
I've beat a 2002ish BMW 540i by the same amount up to 120MPH
conquered a G35 by 3 car lengths on a highway run
downed a 2004 4.2L A6 quattro by 2 lengths on the highway as well

havn't ran into a GTP yet with the lincoln, only in my stock GTO, and I walked it about 4 car lengths... claimed to be cammed, pullied, full bolt on's and the works.

also think about this... we are comparing an all motor 3.9L to a supercharged 3.8L... and I've already walked on the faster 5.3L of the same type of automobile.

what people fail to understand is the lincoln LS is accomplishing alot with what it is given and I have about 200% more luxury and comfort than some of the cars I am beating... more curb weight and less cubic inches as well

face it, for a 3.9L luxury sedan this thing holds it's own... it's basically a modern V8 E36 M3 with more luxury and it's better to look at... I'm awfully sorry it wasn't designed to hang with completely worked LS1 drag cars, corvettes and vipers... but then again this is S&S and I wouldn't expect the masses that inhabit it to understand logical comparisons for performance

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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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No wonder you think that pig of a goat is fast....you think a lincoln is fast.

Honestly, I'd drag that Lincoln with the GP....and I'd drag that Goat with my new car.
Old Feb 15, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 98LS1
No wonder you think that pig of a goat is fast....you think a lincoln is fast.

Honestly, I'd drag that Lincoln with the GP....and I'd drag that Goat with my new car.
where did I say I thought the lincoln was fast... in fact I distinctly remember saying that the car wasn't designed to be a blistering fast spaceship

people like you fail to realize that other people could care a less about what a completely dragged out LS1 can do... they race with what they have, beat what they beat and lose to what lose to and have fun

in fact ever since I bought the lincoln I quoted that it wasn't fast but was rather quick for what it was... a nice peppy luxery sedan with small displacement

I can see your second coming will be a bitter one if all you can do is look for arguments that aren't there by going "HA! I have an LS1 and all my cars are faster!... look at me my cars, I have an elephant with small gun emplacements on it's hips and a rhino with dual weilding tuba's!"

I frankly don't care to be honest lol

PS: I never have thought my goat was fast... in fact I hate it as far as reliability, and further reminded me why GM's are unreliable POS's... faster than my mustang? yeah... but sadly enough it's spent more time in the shop than playing around

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