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mfj 02-28-2009 03:42 PM

New plans!
 
TH400
LSX
3.4L Whipple
all in a cobra...

03svtcobra12 02-28-2009 04:53 PM

brand desecration at its finest, what power level will you be aiming for, im hoping 800+ you wouldn't need that turbo if it wasn't

mfj 02-28-2009 08:04 PM

Uh, yeah... We're talking at least 1200 rwhp here... I'm transforming the car into something more TRACK worthy...

03svtcobra12 02-28-2009 09:26 PM

=) glad to hear your gonna make a beast not just a hey look at these sick parts, what are your plans for the current car/engine?

Ehmark 02-28-2009 10:40 PM

bye bye whipple already lol.

mfj 03-01-2009 12:45 AM

BIG EDIT... Had a long talk with the guy that's helping me...

We're doing a 7.0L lq9 with a 3.4 Whipple at 22psi... Looking for around 1k hp on pump...

More on race gas...

With no lag...

Sure I would see more power with the 91mm thumper, but I want something unique...

Going standalone to make it all work, including with my stock cluster...

Using my existing fuel system, getting accessories off of a junkyard ls1, doing an 8 rib pulley set up with all of it. Getting a lower intake manifold from whipple, used for ls1 setups (mainly in sand rails) and modifying it to fit the 3.4 in a way everything will line up. No more MAF tuning as well...

Also, backing it with either a th400 or a 4l80e (if i want overdrive) manual valve automatic... Using my built solid 8.8 until it breaks, with a custom length driveshaft...

Already found a company that makes the K MEMBER for the swap. Tranny mount will be custom... Using all my existing intercooler "stuff"...

I am doing this build out of my garage this time, without the assistance of a shop. The only thing I'll have done by them is wiring the engine management ****, and tuning of course... Motor comes out this week...

Hlistr_07RR 03-01-2009 07:01 AM

Nice. Videos please :D

Ehmark 03-01-2009 03:29 PM

Skip the 427 ci buy a 900 ci. This one made between 1500-2500 hp naturally aspirated. I guarantee you wont be upgrading again after that for at least a year lol.http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...5/UNDERDOG.jpg

mfj 03-01-2009 03:45 PM

You're a funny guy, lol...

Ehmark 03-01-2009 10:32 PM

That would be pretty sick though lol. : )

1997Stang 03-01-2009 10:57 PM

Sick build! Can't wait to see it when shes done.

SVTeeshirt 03-02-2009 12:10 AM

since you obviously have WAYYY too much money ship me your existing motor, i'll shell out the cash for a blower i guess.

mfj 03-02-2009 12:03 PM

Me? I'm a broke ass...

Fobra 03-02-2009 12:06 PM

why not go to a 508?

Ehmark 03-02-2009 05:20 PM

lol thats BS, if your broke how can you afford all the stuff you get?

mfj 03-02-2009 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Fobra (Post 5989983)
why not go to a 508?

To many cubes for the supercharger... I would NEED a HUGE turbo to move the amount of air needed to boost that engine. Aslo 427 is about max practicality with MPG... I don't want to see my gas gauge dropping fast just from idling, lol!!!


Originally Posted by Ehmark (Post 5990784)
lol thats BS, if your broke how can you afford all the stuff you get?

Well I'm not rich... Otherwise I'd just throw my car at the shop to do everything again, like I did before. This time around, I've got MORE than enough knowledge to do it myself, from hanging around the shop for two years, lol!

03_svt_cobra_22 03-02-2009 07:19 PM

LS9!!!!!

or 572ZZ + 3.4 whipple :D <--- that would be sick!

03_svt_cobra_22 03-02-2009 07:19 PM

either way crazy sick build man!

Blackvenom01 03-02-2009 07:36 PM

weak!! haha jk it is really sick i wish i had it and that money that you dont have lol

Blownsvt 03-02-2009 08:19 PM

Parent funded racing FTW!!!!!!!!!

SVTeeshirt 03-02-2009 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Blownsvt (Post 5991394)
Parent funded racing FTW!!!!!!!!!

lmfao i love you BlownSVT in a non gay way.

Fobra 03-03-2009 12:08 AM

well aside from the most likely practical reality that you will loose a/c and most electronic goodies, how do you intend to make the 3.4 whipple fit the lsx? Is there a manifold for that?

I am right there with you my friend, however, you have alot invested in your current setup and doing this will completely change the nature of your car and your going to have to replace everything. I assume your running an a1000 and that probably wont cut it, all I am saying is that you may want to keep your car the way it is and buy another for such a drastic project.

Fobra 03-03-2009 01:08 AM

im looking on the site, what is the biggest blower you can fit on a lsx? I see they have a W305AX, if that would fit, that would be hardcore.

SVTeeshirt 03-03-2009 01:19 AM

Fobra i was thinking the same thing about buying another car, but the thing is he blew up his car, whoduathunk racing on a break-in tune was a bad idea. :rolleyes:

Fobra 03-03-2009 01:33 AM

haha... that sucks. But looking at his costs and the gain he could see using the same blower setup, its not worth it, it still wont get him on pump gas to hit those max numbers because the blower is going to have to work so hard, seems to me that billet internals, the same setup and 200 shot or so would accomplish the same goal and be majorly cheaper

SVTeeshirt 03-03-2009 01:39 AM

cheap? this is MFJ he turns his cars used oil into gold!

Blownsvt 03-03-2009 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by SVTeeshirt (Post 5991516)
lmfao i love you BlownSVT in a non gay way.

orly? why is that?

mfj 03-03-2009 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Blownsvt (Post 5991394)
Parent funded racing FTW!!!!!!!!!

Nice assumption... Unfortunately, to fund this project, I got rid of my GTP project that I was working on in my garage. It was ported eaton, intercooled, cammed 3.8L with ported heads with valves and springs... That was MY own project car, as I did all the work on it myself, minus the machine work to the heads. Other than that, I am just getting rid of the 4v stuff from the cobra with other miscellaneous things. That money, put together with $4 grand I had saved up, just in case something broke, is what is funding this project.

For the record, I have a 35hr/week job, and I am a full time ASU student (WP Carey School of Accounting), and I also own some stock in several companies (majority in Verizon)...

But thanks for the shallow assumption that everything is funded by my mother. (Deceased father)...

mfj 03-03-2009 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Fobra (Post 5992224)
well aside from the most likely practical reality that you will loose a/c and most electronic goodies, how do you intend to make the 3.4 whipple fit the lsx? Is there a manifold for that?

I am right there with you my friend, however, you have alot invested in your current setup and doing this will completely change the nature of your car and your going to have to replace everything. I assume your running an a1000 and that probably wont cut it, all I am saying is that you may want to keep your car the way it is and buy another for such a drastic project.

As mentioned before, Nelson Performance, makes custom wiring harnesses so I can even use my stock cluster. This will all be connected to a GM computer (contrary to what I said about running a FAST EFI). And Yes, for now, there will be NO AC. I also mentioned that I am pretty much transforming my car into a race car, not a weekend warrior. Yes, whipple makes a lower manifold for the lsx engines, however it will need to be slightly modified to fit the 3.4 in a way that all the pullies will line up.
I am running dual walbro 255's with a KB Boostapump. That fuel system is more than enough to support 1000rwhp...


Originally Posted by Fobra (Post 5992349)
im looking on the site, what is the biggest blower you can fit on a lsx? I see they have a W305AX, if that would fit, that would be hardcore.

I am using the 3.4L whipple... The W305ax has a minimum boost level of like 30lbs, on a 427 engine...

Originally Posted by SVTeeshirt (Post 5992364)
Fobra i was thinking the same thing about buying another car, but the thing is he blew up his car, whoduathunk racing on a break-in tune was a bad idea. :rolleyes:

You are a naive little kid that likes to pretend he knows what he is talking about! The motor was already broken in when I raced. I was simply on a break in tune, meaning that I was running rich, and very little timing. That is called a SAFE tune! Racing on this tune (10.6 afr, 12 degrees of timing
) is a lot less stressful than racing on a real tune (11.8 afr, 16 degrees of timing), so what you said makes no sense, in the slightest... Your short sightedness is getting real annoying, as I already explained why this motor failed. It has NOTHING to do with the tune, and NOTHING to do with how the engine was built. It is due to the fact that one of the pcv lines came off, during the race, causing the MAF to incorrectly read the amount of air going into my engine, which caused the injectors to not fire enough fuel, which caused an extreme lean condition, which led to detonation and piston failure. Got it?

Now I fully expect you to come back with another one of your RETARDED responses of how I paid a shop so much money, because I couldn't do anything myself, or something of that sort. I expect nothing better from you, so go ahead.

Originally Posted by Blownsvt (Post 5992440)
orly? why is that?

Didn't you hear? Once you cross the 700 rwhp threshold, you're entitled to an unlimited amount of NUTSWINGERS! ;) Haha!

Blownsvt 03-03-2009 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by mfj (Post 5993643)
Nice assumption... Unfortunately, to fund this project, I got rid of my GTP project that I was working on in my garage. It was ported eaton, intercooled, cammed 3.8L with ported heads with valves and springs... That was MY own project car, as I did all the work on it myself, minus the machine work to the heads. Other than that, I am just getting rid of the 4v stuff from the cobra with other miscellaneous things. That money, put together with $4 grand I had saved up, just in case something broke, is what is funding this project.

For the record, I have a 35hr/week job, and I am a full time ASU student (WP Carey School of Accounting), and I also own some stock in several companies (majority in Verizon)...

But thanks for the shallow assumption that everything is funded by my mother. (Deceased father)...

It was a joke man. don't take it so seriously. on a side not sorry to hear about your dad.

Blownsvt 03-03-2009 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by mfj (Post 5993673)

Didn't you hear? Once you cross the 700 rwhp threshold, you're entitled to an unlimited amount of NUTSWINGERS! ;) Haha!

So true. If you have a TT viper you get even more. At least thats how it is on another site i am on.

mfj 03-03-2009 03:04 PM

Haha...

Anyways, just FYI, building an lq9 is so much cheaper than building a modular. And can be done for about $3500 WITH heads. l92 heads flow 320 cfm out of the box, and go for $400 a head...

Pushrod stuff is cheap... And like I said, not even that much fabrication required to make this work!

Blownsvt 03-03-2009 03:07 PM

you building the lq9 internals? i am sure you mentioned it someplace. i know a guy putting a turbo lq9 into his 99 z28 right now. i am hearing stock the lq9 short block will take around 800 hp.

mfj 03-03-2009 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Blownsvt (Post 5993734)
you building the lq9 internals? i am sure you mentioned it someplace. i know a guy putting a turbo lq9 into his 99 z28 right now. i am hearing stock the lq9 short block will take around 800 hp.

Forged stroker crank, forged h beam rods, and forged pistons (30 over)... from 364 ci to 427ci...

The lq9 block itself, is an iron block, and can handle power better than the aluminum ls1 block... Even being iron, the engine itself will weigh less than my modular 5.1!

Blownsvt 03-03-2009 03:20 PM

what exactly is wrong with the 5.1? just a piston?

SVTeeshirt 03-03-2009 03:24 PM

Regaurding the I love u BlownSVT post.

actually i said it because i enjoyed the parent funded comment. I am sorry about your father but to further prove my point, you have a nice car and i still think you are a tool.
From what i recall you were racing this thing on an even more conservitive tune when it was nearly right out of the box. Not to mention this is what the 4th 4.6 you have blown to pieces? Forgive me if i made an assumption that it was your dumbass fault. As for the kid who doesn't know anything... or soemthing along that line you said, i know far more about cars than u did when you were my age. Im even willing to say F/I aside i probably know much more about cars than you do, most of the old pushrods and i Guarntee i have more expirence with pushrods and probably more hands on period than you.

mfj 03-03-2009 03:27 PM

Car NEVER went past 4000 rpms, for the first 1000 miles. After that and about 4 oil changes, I started taking it to 5000 rpms. After 2000 miles, it was good to go.

You're the tool here. Your knowledge is minescule, yet you try to talk and give advice, as if you know what you're talking about, yet you're really just paroting what you heard from others. I've got the hands on experience now, that you do not. Sure, at 18, I can admit, I didn't know ****! I was a retard. None of my engine failures have been my own fault! What a tool! Pretend like you know me, kid, you're still nothing but a peanut to me... A slow ass peanut at that! Haha!

Now please leave my thread and getting off topic! You don't like my new plans, go cry to mommy...

SVTeeshirt 03-03-2009 03:38 PM

lol just because you say something doesn't make it true. I installed a cam in a SBC when i was 14 years old when you were 14 you probably didnt know what an sbc was

mfj 03-03-2009 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by SVTeeshirt (Post 5993846)
lol just because you say something doesn't make it true. I installed a cam in a SBC when i was 14 years old when you were 14 you probably didnt know what an sbc was

Want a cookie? LMAO!!

Please STOP ruining my thread with your ignorant immature NONSENSE...

SVTeeshirt 03-03-2009 03:43 PM

stop ruining mustangs and i'll leave ur thread alone, and cmon man u work at a retail store you don't make 100k a year, the monies comin from somewhere else.

and no i didnt mean with the LSx swap i ment blowing them up. How can Rob and Blown and other members run for a year or 2 years + without any big problems yet in 2 months u blow your **** to pieces, multiple times. GTFO tool.


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