Autocross Setup??
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RE: Autocross Setup??
ORIGINAL: Rook6
Ah so it does push? See I'd read alot that GTs had a nasty tendancy to plow through corners as a result of the heavy front weight bias though I'd thought 6ers wouldn't really have that problem with the lighter engine.
Now, help me here, do thicker/stiffer sway bars out back increase a car's tendancy to oversteer or understeer? Never been quite clear on that.
ORIGINAL: 03YellowPony
The only real bad(and it's not that bad) characteristic is when you go to turn REAL sharp, it will push in the tight turns. Understeer. But with good tires, and stiffening the car as I suggested, that understeer will be minimalized.
The only real bad(and it's not that bad) characteristic is when you go to turn REAL sharp, it will push in the tight turns. Understeer. But with good tires, and stiffening the car as I suggested, that understeer will be minimalized.
Now, help me here, do thicker/stiffer sway bars out back increase a car's tendancy to oversteer or understeer? Never been quite clear on that.
Edit~
Another tip I did with my 87 Buick when I autocrossed her. Use a dremmel tool and elongate the lower mounting holes on the struts. This will allow you to adjust for a negative camber. With 1 or 2 degrees of negative camber, and the other things I recommended, you will all but eliminate understeer. Yes, there will be a little, but not much.
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RE: Autocross Setup??
ORIGINAL: 03YellowPony
Another tip I did with my 87 Buick when I autocrossed her. Use a dremmel tool and elongate the lower mounting holes on the struts. This will allow you to adjust for a negative camber. With 1 or 2 degrees of negative camber, and the other things I recommended, you will all but eliminate understeer. Yes, there will be a little, but not much.
Another tip I did with my 87 Buick when I autocrossed her. Use a dremmel tool and elongate the lower mounting holes on the struts. This will allow you to adjust for a negative camber. With 1 or 2 degrees of negative camber, and the other things I recommended, you will all but eliminate understeer. Yes, there will be a little, but not much.
Another question, it's a hard one to ask as I know a corner has multiple parts inducing multiple conditions, so try and bare with me.
A given car with no swaybars, when reaching limit of traction in a continual radius turn, slides neutrally, in that front and rear tires release together. If you were to add a REAR swaybar, would the car, all conditions identically reproduced, understeer or oversteer?
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RE: Autocross Setup??
ORIGINAL: Rook6
Oh I can only imagine the out come of this hamfisted grunt taking a dremel to his Mustang, but it sounds like a good idea. Then again I could always use an excuse to get caster/camber plates.
Another question, it's a hard one to ask as I know a corner has multiple parts inducing multiple conditions, so try and bare with me.
A given car with no swaybars, when reaching limit of traction in a continual radius turn, slides neutrally, in that front and rear tires release together. If you were to add a REAR swaybar, would the car, all conditions identically reproduced, understeer or oversteer?
ORIGINAL: 03YellowPony
Another tip I did with my 87 Buick when I autocrossed her. Use a dremmel tool and elongate the lower mounting holes on the struts. This will allow you to adjust for a negative camber. With 1 or 2 degrees of negative camber, and the other things I recommended, you will all but eliminate understeer. Yes, there will be a little, but not much.
Another tip I did with my 87 Buick when I autocrossed her. Use a dremmel tool and elongate the lower mounting holes on the struts. This will allow you to adjust for a negative camber. With 1 or 2 degrees of negative camber, and the other things I recommended, you will all but eliminate understeer. Yes, there will be a little, but not much.
Another question, it's a hard one to ask as I know a corner has multiple parts inducing multiple conditions, so try and bare with me.
A given car with no swaybars, when reaching limit of traction in a continual radius turn, slides neutrally, in that front and rear tires release together. If you were to add a REAR swaybar, would the car, all conditions identically reproduced, understeer or oversteer?
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RE: Autocross Setup??
What would be mor effective?
Turbo
Supercharger
Naturally Asperated
I'm personally a fan of the low end torque curve you can achieve with an N/A set up. But thought maybe the forced induction would give a nice boost in acceleration after each turn.
Thoughts?
ALSO, I posted in the Autocross sticky, was just wondering if people check it much, or if I should repost my question here.
Turbo
Supercharger
Naturally Asperated
I'm personally a fan of the low end torque curve you can achieve with an N/A set up. But thought maybe the forced induction would give a nice boost in acceleration after each turn.
Thoughts?
ALSO, I posted in the Autocross sticky, was just wondering if people check it much, or if I should repost my question here.
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