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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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This is a little bit off the subject but i read an article that our sixers arn't tuned for premium which we all know but what i foud interesting was that if you actually put premium gas in a car that has a stock tune it actually takes power away. I'm only talking about losing 2 to 3 horses but i just found that intresting.
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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well, if you load a tune that requires premium, you'll be gaining a whopping 4-7RWHP on a bolton/nearly stock car. would 7RWHP max be worth paying another $2-$3 at the pump every time?

if you aren't even tuned for it or your car doesn't knock on regular, you're just wasting your money
3.8s dont have knock sensors

your freind did not gain 38 HP on a tune, post up a TIME SLIP of runs, something that cannot be faked
you'll know if your car is running like shat...

yeah, there's no way in hell you got 38HP. you can get 30HP on an 05+ GT with a CAI and tune, but that's about it. if you could get 38HP from a dyno tune, that'd have to be the first thing to do.

anyway, your ability to launch the car out of the hole will affect your times more than running 6HP.
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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This is a little bit off the subject but i read an article that our sixers arn't tuned for premium which we all know but what i foud interesting was that if you actually put premium gas in a car that has a stock tune it actually takes power away. I'm only talking about losing 2 to 3 horses but i just found that intresting.










That's true. Premium doesn't burn as hot, that's why you can advance the timing with it and not get detonation like low octain.
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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well, if you load a tune that requires premium, you'll be gaining a whopping 4-7RWHP on a bolton/nearly stock car. would 7RWHP max be worth paying another $2-$3 at the pump every time?

if you aren't even tuned for it or your car doesn't knock on regular, you're just wasting your money
3.8s dont have knock sensors

your freind did not gain 38 HP on a tune, post up a TIME SLIP of runs, something that cannot be faked
Its ok youll still know
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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well, if you load a tune that requires premium, you'll be gaining a whopping 4-7RWHP on a bolton/nearly stock car. would 7RWHP max be worth paying another $2-$3 at the pump every time?

if you aren't even tuned for it or your car doesn't knock on regular, you're just wasting your money
3.8s dont have knock sensors

your freind did not gain 38 HP on a tune, post up a TIME SLIP of runs, something that cannot be faked
you'll know if your car is running like shat...

yeah, there's no way in hell you got 38HP. you can get 30HP on an 05+ GT with a CAI and tune, but that's about it. if you could get 38HP from a dyno tune, that'd have to be the first thing to do.

anyway, your ability to launch the car out of the hole will affect your times more than running 6HP.
Its not just a dyno tune though. I have some mods laying around, and I'll need to get the biatch dyno tuned anyways. Which is why Im asking if its worth doing it.
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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well, if you load a tune that requires premium, you'll be gaining a whopping 4-7RWHP on a bolton/nearly stock car. would 7RWHP max be worth paying another $2-$3 at the pump every time?

if you aren't even tuned for it or your car doesn't knock on regular, you're just wasting your money
3.8s dont have knock sensors

your freind did not gain 38 HP on a tune, post up a TIME SLIP of runs, something that cannot be faked
He has bolt ons, and a few other things, but getting the proper tune neted him an additional 38HP. It was also a GT. That is a fact, I have seen the numbers. I don't have the graphs because I'm not in the habit of saving other people's dyno graphs.

And anything can be faked, even the real graph off a dyno, purely by adjusting the values, and I do believe it's not too tough to photoshop a timeslip as well.

I'm trying to stop people from speculating since most have no way of knowing the facts.

Ryan
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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well, if you load a tune that requires premium, you'll be gaining a whopping 4-7RWHP on a bolton/nearly stock car. would 7RWHP max be worth paying another $2-$3 at the pump every time?

if you aren't even tuned for it or your car doesn't knock on regular, you're just wasting your money
3.8s dont have knock sensors

your freind did not gain 38 HP on a tune, post up a TIME SLIP of runs, something that cannot be faked
He has bolt ons, and a few other things, but getting the proper tune neted him an additional 38HP. It was also a GT. That is a fact, I have seen the numbers. I don't have the graphs because I'm not in the habit of saving other people's dyno graphs.

And anything can be faked, even the real graph off a dyno, purely by adjusting the values, and I do believe it's not too tough to photoshop a timeslip as well.

I'm trying to stop people from speculating since most have no way of knowing the facts.

Ryan
unless it was a terminator or an 05+ GT, i still call BS. 38HP is still kind of pushing it. as i said, i've seen with my eyes 30RWHP gain from just CAI and tune at my local speedshop.

this is the v6 section. the way you put that out was anybody can get up to 38HP. you neglected to mention the year and model of this stang that picked up 38HP.
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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with mods (cam/intake/heads)38hp would be believeable if it was way out to begin with. the average on a VMP tune on premuim is about 12rwhp.
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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you neglected to mention the year and model of this stang that picked up 38HP.
Look up again....

[qoute]ORIGINAL: RyansQuick6

He has bolt ons, and a few other things, but getting the proper tune neted him an additional 38HP. It was also a GT

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To be more specific, it is a 98 GT with some minor head work, ported intakeand few other things. I am quoting the numbers that came up from having all this done on a stock tune as opposed to a proper tune to illustrate how advantagous it is to do. Although I know it is kind of tough to expect a lot from pure bolt-ons, but it is always best to use your resources to your advantage. 3-5 hp on several add ons will add up pretty quickly, and the tune will take advantage of that further, it may not be huge, but it's still more none the less.

Ryan
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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you neglected to mention the year and model of this stang that picked up 38HP.
Look up again....

[qoute]ORIGINAL: RyansQuick6

He has bolt ons, and a few other things, but getting the proper tune neted him an additional 38HP. It was also a GT


To be more specific, it is a 98 GT with some minor head work, ported intakeand few other things. I am quoting the numbers that came up from having all this done on a stock tune as opposed to a proper tune to illustrate how advantagous it is to do. Although I know it is kind of tough to expect a lot from pure bolt-ons, but it is always best to use your resources to your advantage. 3-5 hp on several add ons will add up pretty quickly, and the tune will take advantage of that further, it may not be huge, but it's still more none the less.

Ryan
notice how i said the way you put it. you didn't mention anything of a GT and certainly did not mention the year or existing mods. i believe your exact words were:

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A friend of mine gained literally 38hp on a good XCAL 2 dyno tune in premium. That's fact, not an "I think", of a "maybe."

Ryan
the fact is that just about every v6 owner in here that has had a before and after only gained about 4-7 RWHP



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