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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:33 AM
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so i just come up w/ random sh*t every once in a while and although i will probably never try this cuz of my windstar upper...

-what if i made a intake spacer outa aluminum, lets say 1/2".
-then i drilled a hole down the center of it that goes all the way to the end but not out the other side (big red line)
-then i drilled 4 other holes going out the sides that acutally left the spacer (smaller red lines)
-then i would tap the end of the big hole and put a co2 line that comes from a solenoid that then goes to a bottle of co2.
-then the 4 holes in the side of the intake could be tapped and i would use a much smaller line (so that there is a very small amount of
pressureinsidethe spacer to keep it cooler) then those 2 lines would go out the hood scoop or somewhere that the co2 can vent out of the car

so, the point of this is to supercool the incoming air going into the engine. the only problem i could see w/ this is causing something to crack, i dont know if the cold spacer bieng only a gasket away from the hot lower would cause it or the upper to crack....
so thats my little idea. if anybodys got a small engine they wanna try it on be my guest, i would if i had somethin i could try it on besides my car.
Old May 8, 2007 | 01:37 AM
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It sounds like it would work but I think having a setup to pump liquid co2 through your intake manifold would cost alot and not net you too much power on an n/a setup. You would be better off runing liquid no2 through there while you purge the lines... that would do the same thing and may be cheaper if you already have a no2 setup installed.
Old May 8, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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It sounds like it would work but I think having a setup to pump liquid co2 through your intake manifold would cost alot and not net you too much power on an n/a setup. You would be better off runing liquid no2 through there while you purge the lines... that would do the same thing and may be cheaper if you already have a no2 setup installed.
it would hardly cost a thing for me.
ive got a 20oz co2 bottle and some fittings
aluminum would cost like 10-15bucks, i might have some sittin somewhere...
lines and sh*t would probably run you 20-40
the expensive piece would be the little solenoid....not sure how much they run

oh and thats a really good idea for the purge thing for nitrous.i didnt think of that. it would be a good way to get things nice and cool right before you ran.
Old May 8, 2007 | 01:49 AM
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i think its a good idea, i might look into this
Old May 8, 2007 | 02:03 AM
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even if you got it to work their is such a small surface area that would actually become cold and be in contact with the cold air. i would expect gains to be very minimal especially on an n/a setup. it is a neat idea,butin practice though i reallydont see it working all that well
Old May 8, 2007 | 02:33 AM
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Putting some bags of ice on the intake between rounds is still cheaper and safer.
Old May 8, 2007 | 02:34 AM
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prob not enough gains to worry with, good idea tho, i def dont see ne one runnin it on a daily basis, maybe at the track
Old May 8, 2007 | 02:35 AM
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even if you got it to work their is such a small surface area that would actually become cold and be in contact with the cold air. i would expect gains to be very minimal especially on an n/a setup. it is a neat idea,butin practice though i reallydont see it working all that well
i can always ad a long runner down each side along witha long one goin along the width of the front and back of the intake for more surface area. ant it is aluminum so it will cool pretty damn fast. but you are right about how it wouldtn really touch much of the air. it should help cool the upper too though...i dunno, i might actually be able to get a solenoid for free, that means i have tofill my co2 bottle and get some lines along w/ a chunck of alumnium. if i could find somebody who would let mey dyno the car w/ it on and off that would be awesome but i am not payn for that.

and yea, this whole thing will most likely never happen because like most of you have said, gains probably wouldnt be worth it.
Old May 8, 2007 | 03:38 AM
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Or you can use a Tb spacer , run a line and cool the incoming air from the tb .
Old May 8, 2007 | 03:46 AM
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Or you can use a Tb spacer , run a line and cool the incoming air from the tb .
yea i was thinkin about that too, hellyou could do both at the same time. lol



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