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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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I was driving down the highway yesterday running the a/c, then all of a sudden it started blowing normal air insted of cold air. So i give up my plans(30 miles on the highway with the windows down will get dam annoying) and head home. I pop the hood and 1st thing i notice is that my radiator fluid is on the full when cold mark, when i just drove home a good 15 miles or so back. I know this has nothing to do with it, but still needs to be filled. What else could be wrong? I say the antifreeze is out, but my parents think otherwise.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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I had the same problem today and so did my coworker. Dont know the exact name but its the censor? or plug thats on the a/c line. In my cavalier it was next to the high pressure port. Its easy to find but I forgot where its located in the mustang. It was a bad connection. If you hold it down it will kick back on or else you need to change it if its dead.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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I was driving down the highway yesterday running the a/c, then all of a sudden it started blowing normal air insted of cold air. So i give up my plans(30 miles on the highway with the windows down will get dam annoying) and head home. I pop the hood and 1st thing i notice is that my radiator fluid is on the full when cold mark, when i just drove home a good 15 miles or so back. I know this has nothing to do with it, but still needs to be filled. What else could be wrong? I say the antifreeze is out, but my parents think otherwise.
Antifreeze is in the radiator and has nothing to do with your A/C.

The only way to diagnose your A/C system is start by doing the following
- Turn the car on and turn the A/C to MAX and the blower to full blast (4). Take a look under the hood. The A/C clutch (black thing the belt runs over) should be spinning with the motor and blowing cold consistently.
- If the Clutch is not spinning then you need to look at either a bad A/C clutch or lowR134a in your system
- If the clutch is spinning but the cooling is intermittent, you probably have a very small leak in your system or the condensor is clogging
- To properly diagnose it you'll have to get a manifold guage assembly or take it to an A/C shop and have them diagnose it for you.

Easy Way
Diagnose at a shop= $20-35 and you will know for certain what is wrong

Harder way
Manifold set = $30-45
Leak detector kit (that includes dye) = $30-40
and you could still be scratching your head.

A/C systems are not cheap to work on because anytime you crack open the system you have to replace the Accumulator anddo a total evac/refill/leak test. Even if it's just a $0.20 o-ring that's leaking.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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ORIGINAL: l_shizzle_l

I was driving down the highway yesterday running the a/c, then all of a sudden it started blowing normal air insted of cold air. So i give up my plans(30 miles on the highway with the windows down will get dam annoying) and head home. I pop the hood and 1st thing i notice is that my radiator fluid is on the full when cold mark, when i just drove home a good 15 miles or so back. I know this has nothing to do with it, but still needs to be filled. What else could be wrong? I say the antifreeze is out, but my parents think otherwise.
Antifreeze is in the radiator and has nothing to do with your A/C.

The only way to diagnose your A/C system is start by doing the following
- Turn the car on and turn the A/C to MAX and the blower to full blast (4). Take a look under the hood. The A/C clutch (black thing the belt runs over) should be spinning with the motor and blowing cold consistently.
- If the Clutch is not spinning then you need to look at either a bad A/C clutch or low R134a in your system
- If the clutch is spinning but the cooling is intermittent, you probably have a very small leak in your system or the condensor is clogging
- To properly diagnose it you'll have to get a manifold guage assembly or take it to an A/C shop and have them diagnose it for you.

Easy Way
Diagnose at a shop = $20-35 and you will know for certain what is wrong

Harder way
Manifold set = $30-45
Leak detector kit (that includes dye) = $30-40
and you could still be scratching your head.

A/C systems are not cheap to work on because anytime you crack open the system you have to replace the Accumulator and do a total evac/refill/leak test. Even if it's just a $0.20 o-ring that's leaking.




Very good but you forgot to mention time and money to get training to work on A/C as part of the "harder way".

+ 1 on taking it to a shop.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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The second post about the switch is worth looking into(that what I am doing know with mine), and the other simplel check is the R-134, you can get a can with a guage atan auto parts store, but if its low, then there is a leak (o-rings, hoses, the valve where you refill/shcader valve.)
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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I bet its the connection to the censor. When I tested the pressure with it not working it flew up to 100 psi.
Old Aug 9, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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same thing happened to my ac. it turned out to be a bad ac clutch. if it cuts in and out that's what it might be
Old Aug 9, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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ORIGINAL: raz54

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ORIGINAL: l_shizzle_l

I was driving down the highway yesterday running the a/c, then all of a sudden it started blowing normal air insted of cold air. So i give up my plans(30 miles on the highway with the windows down will get dam annoying) and head home. I pop the hood and 1st thing i notice is that my radiator fluid is on the full when cold mark, when i just drove home a good 15 miles or so back. I know this has nothing to do with it, but still needs to be filled. What else could be wrong? I say the antifreeze is out, but my parents think otherwise.
Antifreeze is in the radiator and has nothing to do with your A/C.

The only way to diagnose your A/C system is start by doing the following
- Turn the car on and turn the A/C to MAX and the blower to full blast (4). Take a look under the hood. The A/C clutch (black thing the belt runs over) should be spinning with the motor and blowing cold consistently.
- If the Clutch is not spinning then you need to look at either a bad A/C clutch or low R134a in your system
- If the clutch is spinning but the cooling is intermittent, you probably have a very small leak in your system or the condensor is clogging
- To properly diagnose it you'll have to get a manifold guage assembly or take it to an A/C shop and have them diagnose it for you.

Easy Way
Diagnose at a shop = $20-35 and you will know for certain what is wrong

Harder way
Manifold set = $30-45
Leak detector kit (that includes dye) = $30-40
and you could still be scratching your head.

A/C systems are not cheap to work on because anytime you crack open the system you have to replace the Accumulator and do a total evac/refill/leak test. Even if it's just a $0.20 o-ring that's leaking.




Very good but you forgot to mention time and money to get training to work on A/C as part of the "harder way".

+ 1 on taking it to a shop.
I didn't forget That's what the whole "Still may be scratching your head" comment was about...it was implied
Old Aug 9, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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The pressure is going to be 100+ if the air is not on.

I repalced the switch on mine yesterday and the air now work great. $35 Motorcraft switch. On my 94 it was a round thing threaded at one end, with wires that clip on the top. It screwed into the tank(near the firewall)were the low-pressure line runs from as well. Yours might be in a different location. Should still be around the low pressure line though.But it is a simple fix , if that is the problem.
Old Aug 9, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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The pressure is going to be 100+ if the air is not on.

I repalced the switch on mine yesterday and the air now work great. $35 Motorcraft switch. On my 94 it was a round thing threaded at one end, with wires that clip on the top. It screwed into the tank(near the firewall)were the low-pressure line runs from as well. Yours might be in a different location. Should still be around the low pressure line though.But it is a simple fix , if that is the problem.
Just replacing parts and hoping it fixes it is a gamble. Glad it worked out for you but I'd rather know for $20-30 than guess and keep my fingers crossed. At worst it will cost him $55-65 if he's got the same issue. (diagnosis + switch)



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