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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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Today I went to start my 94 V6 and I noticed the car would not turn over at all. I have a new battery and I have driven a couple hundred miles this past weekend so I know its not the battery. It seems to make one or two clicking noises when I turn the car over. I was wondering if the starters seem to go quickly or if they seize up easily after moderate driving. The car ran fine today and then stopped working after restarting the car. My cables could be shot too so im not sure what I should purchase first. Thanks
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Bad cables can cause it or a bad (corroded or loose) connection.
Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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I was also wondering where the ground is located. I dont know if its hidden somewhere connected to the block. If possible I think it might be connected to the starter because i cant find it anywhere else.
Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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I was also wondering where the ground is located. I dont know if its hidden somewhere connected to the block. If possible I think it might be connected to the starter because i cant find it anywhere else.
well, yes there is no separate ground for the starter as it is using the block and then the block's grounding strap to complete the circuit. At least two wires going to the starter are both positive: the small wire is the solenoid and becomes hot when you turn to "ignition", the larger wire is always hot and its the high amp feed to the starter motor.

I believe you need to be a little more skeptical or suspicious of the battery. Based on my experience, I live by three essential laws when it comes to batteries:
(1) There is no substitute for determining the health of a battery except for a proper battery meter or a charger that has that function.
(2) Any battery older than three years is an easy target.
(3) Everything else is NOT a good indicator of battery health. Well heck yeh if you start the car, the alternator is taking care of what the battery isn't doing... keep the engine running all day on a bad battery! Besides, there is nothing going on that closely resembles the amp pull of the starter, so a weak battery can do all sorts of things but not crank the starter.

Lucky for us parts stores have machine to check both. And last time I checked the battery is a shtload easier to take out than the starter.

The only other goofy thing I have had happen that opens the stinkin circuit is occasionally I have been in a vehicle with an automatic shift on the column, and the shift select position wouldn't always sit in the "P" position to close the contacts (making the computer think it was in "R") and so wouldn't start. But that's more of a symptom of column mounted auto shifts.

good luck partner.
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