turbos can go 14 psi, prochargers can do 11 psi cause they are innercooled, vortechs can do 9 because they dont have a I/C with them,

 

good to know. put the new engine in and now im looking at doing some forced air. just wondering how much it could handle. dont really want to rip into the motor. thanks for everyones inputs.......

 

Well... a Vortech S/C is about 3.5K-4K. You can find a GT for that price. Or sell your V6 and get a GT for that price... and by doing that opening yourself up to a complete new set of options as far as modding. I honestly don't see the point in modding a V6 for "speed purposes." It can be done but the cost effectiveness is just irrational. "I threw down five grand to be able to beat a stock GT even though they cost five to seven thousand...!"

But that's just me $.02

 

I'm sure matt will be in here to tell you its much more cost efficient than you think.

 

Haha, both your AND Matt's cars are nasty-sick. But I can only see it being cost effective once you get into the 500+ HP range... but you'd have to do all the work by yourself. For the average person, I doubt it's truly cost effecient. But let's look at the numbers,

My '98 V6 cost 4K when I got it (it's not worth 3.5-3K).
Working with the new price, 3K for one in decent condition. Drop in around $800 for a split port swap and then another $4K for a S/C. The cost is up to nearly 8K and you have a car that has around 245HP. Not to mention it's wise to upgrade your gears, exhaust, cooling system and get a good set of tires + suspension. But that's optional.

A '98 GT costs about 7K. I've found them for 5K. If memory serves, the 4.6L V8 has 220HP. Using an average of both prices in my area, at 6K, that's less HP than the 8K V6, true, but with 4K more you can make the 220HP V8 into a 300+ HP bohemoth. Sure, it'd be wise to upgrade all of the stuff as mentioned in the V6. Or, you can just get it chiped/tuned and unleash it's true potential. A chiped/tuned 4.6L might be able to beat a S/C'd V6.

So for about the same price you have a much faster car.

I mean, I will say there's a bit of a 'wow factor' when a V6 rocks your face. But I remember reading a story of this kid in a 3.8 with forged pistons / rods and a few other internal mods with a S/C and a 100 shot of NOS raced a Bike and a GT and won. He never said how much he won by... but he had to hold down the NOS to get past 'em and ended up frying a piston ring or two and his head gasket. I mean, it CAN be done. But, like I said, you're pushing the limit where as the GT you're just bushing boundaries.

 

6k will get you a beatup non-PI here. 2k will buy a singleport- which if you put the 4k difference into, you can get 250rwhp out of.


what yuor failing to mention is the 6k V6 is 245hp AT THE WHEELS. your 6k GT is 220hp....at the crank.




and its nitrous or NO2, you sound like a dumb **** when you call it NAAAWWWWZ

 

Actually, according to the information that Procharger gave me, that's at the crank. All of it is at the crank. A Cobra is 245 at crank, and I remember a Split-Port @ 11PSI was like 10 or so more HP than Cobra's. Single-Port does better with turbos, while split-ports do better with S/C.

AND I APOLOGIZE! God forbid I say 'Band-Aid' rather than 'adhesive bandage'.

 

so, a 11psi procharger will give a 50hp gain? and i suppose lerachauns wills start dancing out my *** to ricky martin. I guess that 15psi on a 4.6 will only give 75hp, eh?



and theres a difference between "band-aid" and "NOS"- one ahs been around for over 30 years and is in widespread use amoung a majority of the population as the accepted term for a product. one is relatively new, and is only one of many products, and is not the most widely used of products.

 

Split-Port V6 Mustangs had 193 HP @ the crank. With 11PSI Procharger it went up to about 250-HP.
So, yes, 50 HP. I had the chart but I threw it away. These are the numbers from Procharger, BTW. Do you think I'm pulling these numbers out of my ***?
Go ask them for information for a V6 Mustang. The numbers will be about the same for the 11PSI ProCharger on a 3.8L Split-Port.

And if you talk to anyone who knows about NO2 or 'NOS' if you say 'NOS' you won't sound like an idiot, you'll just sound like someone who doesn't want to say "Enn Ohh Two." Stop trying to attack me. You aren't proving anything.

 

you don't know what your talking about.

first off tell a turbo v6 buick guy he is dumb for building his car. i'll wait for this response before i go deeper

secondly an 11psi procharger on a splitport will put down 300rwhp/300tq. my procharged 98 on a stock junkyard engine running the wrong fuel setup makes 226rwhp/267ftlbs and is enough to run full bolton and geared 99-04 GT's i've done it numerous times. i don't win by much but i still pull them the closest was a 430 geared 03 5spd GT with boltons and i had him by a car by 100.

the procharger lit states that on a 94-98 3.8 the hp is 275 and that is crankhp which if you do the driveline loss my 226 is right on the spot. a procharged 11 psi split port will easily toast a full bolt on and geared GT by a wide margin

as far as cost??? it's only alittle more to build the 3.8 than it is to build a stock headed 5.0 and alot less than a 4.6 as far as power handling??? how many 5.0's do you see running 500+rwhp with stock block and factory heads????

i'll wait for your response