Repair Question
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Joined: Oct 2007
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From: Washington DC
Repair Question
Hey everyone. I hate to start out with problems but I need help..
About My car:
1996 Mustang 3.8 v6, no performance mods yet.
About Me:
I've been in love with cars since I can remember. I've become more involved in the mechanics of cars watching my father and uncles work on their own vehicles however none of them have made any performance upgrades as they all had big families to support.
I've always been technical. I've been in the computer field for almost eight years and work on my own vehicle for most simple and routine repairs so I do have some enginuity even if I don't know what the part I'm fixing is called. LOL
My Problem.
I have trouble with a cooling system hose but it is the hose that runs parallel to the distributer. the hose burst causing a short in my main coil (coil #1 or A depending on your source) When the vehicle is dry it has no problems.
The hose in question is connected directly to a metal hose which is connected to another rubber hose. The metal portion of the conveyance is connected to another metal arm that appears to be fastened to the exhaust manifold.
My questions are
1. What is the name of this part so that I can identify it for replacement?
2. What is the best method to fixing this should I replace the entire part or just splice the broken hose?
3. How do I splice into a metal part?
4. If I do end up replacing the entire part how do I do this without potentially needing to replace an exhaust manifold gasket or ending up with an exhaust leak?
Thank you in advance. Your input is greatly appreciated!
Pictures added below:
Busted portion of the hose and connection to the temp sender unit on the right and the aluminum piping to the left.
Clearer picture<br>
Full length of the hose pipe assembly shown after moving the air intake hose out of the way. A co-worker and I did some research and we believe it may be a heater hose but I'm still open to your input. Also please tell me if there is a way to only change the busted portion of the hose instead of replacing the while pipe. Thanks.
Thanks again!
About My car:
1996 Mustang 3.8 v6, no performance mods yet.
About Me:
I've been in love with cars since I can remember. I've become more involved in the mechanics of cars watching my father and uncles work on their own vehicles however none of them have made any performance upgrades as they all had big families to support.
I've always been technical. I've been in the computer field for almost eight years and work on my own vehicle for most simple and routine repairs so I do have some enginuity even if I don't know what the part I'm fixing is called. LOL
My Problem.
I have trouble with a cooling system hose but it is the hose that runs parallel to the distributer. the hose burst causing a short in my main coil (coil #1 or A depending on your source) When the vehicle is dry it has no problems.
The hose in question is connected directly to a metal hose which is connected to another rubber hose. The metal portion of the conveyance is connected to another metal arm that appears to be fastened to the exhaust manifold.
My questions are
1. What is the name of this part so that I can identify it for replacement?
2. What is the best method to fixing this should I replace the entire part or just splice the broken hose?
3. How do I splice into a metal part?
4. If I do end up replacing the entire part how do I do this without potentially needing to replace an exhaust manifold gasket or ending up with an exhaust leak?
Thank you in advance. Your input is greatly appreciated!
Pictures added below:
Busted portion of the hose and connection to the temp sender unit on the right and the aluminum piping to the left.
Clearer picture<br>
Full length of the hose pipe assembly shown after moving the air intake hose out of the way. A co-worker and I did some research and we believe it may be a heater hose but I'm still open to your input. Also please tell me if there is a way to only change the busted portion of the hose instead of replacing the while pipe. Thanks.
Thanks again!
Last edited by ptownstep; Dec 9, 2008 at 12:15 PM. Reason: adding pictures
Reverse Gear Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,130
From: Baton Rouge, LA
That's a heater hose, it connects to the heater core at the firewall. With that compression fitting, you'll have to change the assembly, it may not be too expensive. I'd also check your other hoses for swelling as well. The hose between the pipe and the firewall looks like it's waiting to burst as well, a lot of swelling.
Thread Starter
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 8
From: Washington DC
well then...
That's a heater hose, it connects to the heater core at the firewall. With that compression fitting, you'll have to change the assembly, it may not be too expensive. I'd also check your other hoses for swelling as well. The hose between the pipe and the firewall looks like it's waiting to burst as well, a lot of swelling.
Thank you!
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Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 15,865
From: Ludlow, Mass
That's a heater hose, it connects to the heater core at the firewall. With that compression fitting, you'll have to change the assembly, it may not be too expensive. I'd also check your other hoses for swelling as well. The hose between the pipe and the firewall looks like it's waiting to burst as well, a lot of swelling.
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Since I'm pretty cheap, I would not attempt to replace that part with another factory piece. Although I'm not positive, I would bet that Ford is pretty proud of that design, and priced it accordingly.
It's just a heater hose. I would replace it with a length of generic heater hose. The only issue is the size. IIRC, the fitting on the itnake manifold and the nipple on the heater core are two differant sizes. You could try to replace the fitting in the manifold. But it looks pretty corroded. It might be best to just leave well enough alone.
NAPA sells adapter fittings pretty cheaply. 1 Adapter, 1' hose in one size, 2' of hose in the other size, 4 clamps. Use any leftover hose as abrasion protection.
The whole job can be done for <$20.
It's just a heater hose. I would replace it with a length of generic heater hose. The only issue is the size. IIRC, the fitting on the itnake manifold and the nipple on the heater core are two differant sizes. You could try to replace the fitting in the manifold. But it looks pretty corroded. It might be best to just leave well enough alone.
NAPA sells adapter fittings pretty cheaply. 1 Adapter, 1' hose in one size, 2' of hose in the other size, 4 clamps. Use any leftover hose as abrasion protection.
The whole job can be done for <$20.
Thread Starter
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 8
From: Washington DC
Correction:
You were absolutely right. that hose is perminantly fastened to that pipe. I also realized the brace is bolted on with a second set of bolts. Which gave me the confidence to remove the assembly. I also wouldn't mind changing the hose near the firewall since I spotted the clamp for it last night while removing the hose from the pipe. I will poll my local ford dealerships to see if they have this part laying around. Would you be opposed to pulling this assembly off of another mustang maybe at a wrecker? I do want to get this resolved asap so i can save money by driving my mustang :-) (believe it or not it costs less to drive to work than taking public transportation here in DC).
You were absolutely right. that hose is perminantly fastened to that pipe. I also realized the brace is bolted on with a second set of bolts. Which gave me the confidence to remove the assembly. I also wouldn't mind changing the hose near the firewall since I spotted the clamp for it last night while removing the hose from the pipe. I will poll my local ford dealerships to see if they have this part laying around. Would you be opposed to pulling this assembly off of another mustang maybe at a wrecker? I do want to get this resolved asap so i can save money by driving my mustang :-) (believe it or not it costs less to drive to work than taking public transportation here in DC).
From what you're saying it probably isn't a good idea to try and pull that hose out of the pipe and jam a new one in there like my co-worker and the techician at advanced auto parts concluded? So do you know where I can get a price quote for the whole assembly? Also I'm concerned because the pipe is welded to a brace which is bolted with the exhaust manifold. I'm concerned about unbolting my exhaust manifold as I don't want to create a new problem trying to fix this one. Do you have any pointers that I should consider regarding replacing that hose assembly myself?
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thread Starter
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 8
From: Washington DC
cost vs cost over time..
I will check with napa as well. Why didn't I think of that LOL
As it is I'm taking public transportation to work and that is an extra $20/wk without my stang. I'm more concerned about fixing this quickly and correctly than price because if I can't drive to work for another week that's $40 down the drain. and that's just for transportation to work and back. it would take a total of $101.50/2 weeks to get back and forth to work using public transportation however I spend maybe $65/2 weeks driving and that includes all the driving I do during the weekend as well and I have more time to do other things. So yeah quickly and correctly is my goal and thanks for the advice I will definitely check with Napa.
As it is I'm taking public transportation to work and that is an extra $20/wk without my stang. I'm more concerned about fixing this quickly and correctly than price because if I can't drive to work for another week that's $40 down the drain. and that's just for transportation to work and back. it would take a total of $101.50/2 weeks to get back and forth to work using public transportation however I spend maybe $65/2 weeks driving and that includes all the driving I do during the weekend as well and I have more time to do other things. So yeah quickly and correctly is my goal and thanks for the advice I will definitely check with Napa.
Since I'm pretty cheap, I would not attempt to replace that part with another factory piece. Although I'm not positive, I would bet that Ford is pretty proud of that design, and priced it accordingly.
It's just a heater hose. I would replace it with a length of generic heater hose. The only issue is the size. IIRC, the fitting on the itnake manifold and the nipple on the heater core are two differant sizes. You could try to replace the fitting in the manifold. But it looks pretty corroded. It might be best to just leave well enough alone.
NAPA sells adapter fittings pretty cheaply. 1 Adapter, 1' hose in one size, 2' of hose in the other size, 4 clamps. Use any leftover hose as abrasion protection.
The whole job can be done for <$20.
It's just a heater hose. I would replace it with a length of generic heater hose. The only issue is the size. IIRC, the fitting on the itnake manifold and the nipple on the heater core are two differant sizes. You could try to replace the fitting in the manifold. But it looks pretty corroded. It might be best to just leave well enough alone.
NAPA sells adapter fittings pretty cheaply. 1 Adapter, 1' hose in one size, 2' of hose in the other size, 4 clamps. Use any leftover hose as abrasion protection.
The whole job can be done for <$20.
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