SpecterGT260

it would be faster because of the speed at which it shifts. but that doesnt mean necessarily faster than a manual.

however, once a car becomes fast enough the time lost to shifts becomes significant and autos are actually faster even with the power loss

justinschmidt1

Theres a lot of factors here.

You have to realize that even with the extra power loss, a higher stall auto will have a broader and higher avg. hp than a manual that peaks at a certain number.

My car for example will hold 5k from pretty much any rpm....so my 3rd gear to a manuals 4th gear. Both have a 1.00 ratio.

In the auto I could pull from 60-100 at 5k and lock up from 100-120 and pull from 5-6k.

in a manual you would have to pull from like 2500-6k.

The avg. power the auto would make would be much greater even if the manual car peaked at 20-30 more hp.

This is just one example of why an auto car may be faster.

The fact that a turbo auto can hold boost between shifts is also a plus.

With jesus behind the wheel the 5 speed car should technically be able to run faster but most people cant drive worth a **** so in general a stalled auto car will run faster than a manual with the identical setup.

Autos are generally the way to go unless you want to dump the clutch at 6k and powershift every gear to run similar times.

If you look at cars that run faster than 12.0s you will notice that the auto's generally rule.

over at MPH for example there is a 375 rwhp, 3200 stalled auto that runs 11.59 at 118.5 mph

Pretty solid for only 375 rwhp IMO

ESG-642T

Yes Stall + Jmod + b&M hammer = f*** your 5speed

03sixbanger

couldn't be any more true

TurtleSLow

thats some good info

i do realize that most really modded cars are built autos
i love my 5 speed tho =]

my opinion is the same as specters

bgnn32

I will take my 5 speed over an auto any day of the week. With a 5 speed you can drive it how you need to for the conditions, with an auto you kind of have whatever your tuning and mods gives you. For the absolute best performance you need to modify the tuning of the tranny for the conditions you are running.

Also a 5 speed is way more fun.

max427

hands down auto is faster, and so much more consistent. theres no missed gear trashing a run, but doesnt it take something out of the thrill of improving your times or skill?

SpecterGT260

a stock manual, properly driven will beat a stock auto. due to better power transfer to wheels as well as the ability to powershift and to launch within the powerband. a stock auto can do none of these.

modified autos, however, can (kinda) and become faster

cobra232

i disagree.
my old stock trans 3800 W68 firebird would consistently beat T5 3800 F-bodies even Y87 3.42 geared pkg cars and mine was 3.08 gear'd. the 4L60E was a quick shifting trans stock and had a good stalled converter stock also. the ford 4R70W however is different and i agree with you on that. it's a soft marshmellow shifting trans combined with the pre 99 2.73 gears made it horrid compared to the t5 in the same year car. the 99+ stangs are alittle better but still bad with a stock auto. they shift like a lincoln conti from 1988. stall it right and a good shiftkit and the t-5 is smoke.

the t-5 is a junk trans anyways with any power ran through it. better off with a tremec. i love a manual but in the stangs the 4R70W is really superior when setup right. stock in a 3800 f-body the 4L60E was much better than the T-5 in my experience

SpecterGT260

the chevy auto doesnt suffer as much as ford's does, but it still loses power and cannot launch from within the powerband like a manual can. if you beat your friends manual, chances are he just wasnt a great driver