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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 11:02 PM
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 06:13 AM
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Buy a v8 IMO, I know some will argue but if you dont want to spend a metro butt **** ton on a 350hp car just start with a gt, Put an intake exhaust and cams and you are at 300. Ive worked countless mustangs (in a perf shop) and I bet you can guess how many were v6's dont get me wrong I love mine and if you want to build yourss more power it runss through my head every other week but its up to you in the end.
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While the V6 can make 350 hp, it takes a nice chunk of change to get it there simply because you'll need a ton of secondary parts the V6s lack and the V8s have, such as a stronger rear end and limited slip differential to name a few.

Now with that said even on some V8s, getting to the 350 hp mark isn't that easy. It also depends what you're talking about, are you talking 350 bhp (flywheel hp) or 350 rwhp (hp at the wheels). The 350 bhp is obviously easier to attain than the 350 rwhp, but I'm going to assume you're talking rwhp as bhp is much harder to measure.

A 99-04 GT makes around 225-230 rwhp so in short, you'd need a supercharger to hit 350 rwhp. Problem is that's about the most the engine can make in stock form as the 99-04s have pretty weak stock internals. You can do an aggressive engine build to get there but the car wouldn't be as streetable.

99/01 Cobra makes around 260 rwhp, again, you'll need a supercharger to get there and the 99/01s also have weak internals.

03/04 Corbas make around 370 rwhp. So get one of these and you're there...but at a $16000 asking point in fair condition and the best still selling for over $20,000 I'm gonna assume this is out the price range.

05-10 GTs make around 245 rwhp. They can be easily moded to hit 300 rwhp by fixing the timing and fuel curves Ford tuned into the car to make them run "safer" but it hampers power. To get to 350 rwhp you will need an S/C or a mild engine build. Problem here is these cars can sell anywhere from $10,000-25000 used.

07+ Cobras dyno around 450-475 rwhp, but like the terminator I'll assume this is out of your price range.

11 Mustang GT dynos around 360 rwhp but with a $28,000 entry price tag I'll also assume this is out of your price range.
Old Nov 17, 2011 | 08:13 AM
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So in short you'll need to spend a nice chunk of change somehow, question to ask yourself is how do you want to do it.

Now I'll say this much, I'm all for learning and having fun with your car, but don't blow every penny you make modding cars as when you get older you'll see just how much you wasted. Why do I say that you might ask...simply, lets say you buy a car and put $5000 in mods into the car...5 years later, you're older, can afford something newer, better, more reliable (and trust me you will be able to) guess what all that money you put into the car is now worth.....$0!!! That's right $0, so it's something to keep in mind. Sure some of the parts you may be able to take off and get 1/4 of what you paid for it if you're lucky but in general is wasted cash.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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Sell v6, buy a 99-04 gt.

Do the "$1500 vortech build"

It typically comes up to more than that, but many many members have hit 350-400+rwhp for under $2500 bucks on an intercooled vortech.

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If you want 300 hp and own a V6, get a supercharger and call it a day. You'll get the power you want and not have to worry about the headache of buying a different car.
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^^^Completley off the subject and I apologize OP but damn Roush that pic of your car is hot!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 3.0Taurass
Sell v6, buy a 99-04 gt.

Do the "$1500 vortech build"

It typically comes up to more than that, but many many members have hit 350-400+rwhp for under $2500 bucks on an intercooled vortech.

https://mustangforums.com/forum/pipe...-its-done.html

Exactly 2170 bucks my man!!
Old Nov 17, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jthorn9
While the V6 can make 350 hp, it takes a nice chunk of change to get it there simply because you'll need a ton of secondary parts the V6s lack and the V8s have, such as a stronger rear end and limited slip differential to name a few.

Now with that said even on some V8s, getting to the 350 hp mark isn't that easy. It also depends what you're talking about, are you talking 350 bhp (flywheel hp) or 350 rwhp (hp at the wheels). The 350 bhp is obviously easier to attain than the 350 rwhp, but I'm going to assume you're talking rwhp as bhp is much harder to measure.

A 99-04 GT makes around 225-230 rwhp so in short, you'd need a supercharger to hit 350 rwhp. Problem is that's about the most the engine can make in stock form as the 99-04s have pretty weak stock internals. You can do an aggressive engine build to get there but the car wouldn't be as streetable.

99/01 Cobra makes around 260 rwhp, again, you'll need a supercharger to get there and the 99/01s also have weak internals.

03/04 Corbas make around 370 rwhp. So get one of these and you're there...but at a $16000 asking point in fair condition and the best still selling for over $20,000 I'm gonna assume this is out the price range.

05-10 GTs make around 245 rwhp.
They can be easily moded to hit 300 rwhp by fixing the timing and fuel curves Ford tuned into the car to make them run "safer" but it hampers power. To get to 350 rwhp you will need an S/C or a mild engine build. Problem here is these cars can sell anywhere from $10,000-25000 used.

07+ Cobras dyno around 450-475 rwhp, but like the terminator I'll assume this is out of your price range.

11 Mustang GT dynos around 360 rwhp but with a $28,000 entry price tag I'll also assume this is out of your price range.
The S197s are more stout than that, I have an intake, tune and exhaust and am at 290 at the wheels, a person I went with made 270-275 and he was stock, I forget exactly what his number was but it was pretty good. All on a 80 degree day after a 2ish hour drive too, no cool down time. To give advice, either trade in for a GT or go FI, whichever you think is better for you.



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