So my cars been making noises from under the hood.. and its interior noises

so i figure it was just the pistons smaking the block because the decrease in weather (a piston smack)

so it got louder recently..

and i went to a ford dealer and i had a mecanic check it out..
My friend works there so the macanic came outside and he revs my car up.. and he goes... its the lower block that is making the noise.. and that "its bottoming out"

then he says.. a 1995 3.8 is bound to have a gasket go bad sometime and then what happened to me
it was a chain reaction
1. my timing chain slipped a notch
2. it trew the cam off
3. then the intake and exaust vavles must be messed up.. so the pistons probably knocking on the valve when it comes up
4. the guy said i have coolent mixed with oil now

and i read in a vocational auto book i borrowed from my friend that the coolent leaked in during the intake stage or when the car was off

so i go inside and the guy prints off a list of parts
some gaskets, a oil pump, then something like rublt camshaft

it came up to 650 bucks

then he says.. if we so the work for you.. it will total up to be around 900 bucks


i dont get why my timing would be bad in the first place.
and why it would turn bad.
thats not something that should.. like your alternator might go bad.. but it accually goes bad.. this slipped

car has 50,853 miles on it

i bought it at the begining of the summer and put 5 thousand miles on it

i really dont get it

any imput would be good

thanks

-Brian

 

Well the price for Ford to work on it is about right. Yes things happen. But I would think that if your timing chain slipped then the car should backfire badly or not start at all and if it does start then you would not have very much power. Because if the cam is off that means that a valve(s) is open when the cylinder fires. Yes, timing chains and timing gears go bad. It is a machine and a machine will wear out eventually. Perhaps at 50K or 150K but it will wear out and need to be replaced. All machanical parts wear out. Some faster than others I depends on how well it was taken care of. Sorry but it is the truth.

 

I completly agree with traveler. (did I just say that??). The early 3.8's were real trouble engines. They had "issues". And the price sounds about right. BUT!!!!! If you don't feel comfortable with the diagnosis, there are 2 things you can do. 1, get another opinion. 2, pay for a "teardown" estimate. That entails the tech tearing down the engine to find the exact problem. The "good" thing about that is, the repairs won't be as expensive. That's cus you already paid for the disassembly. The total will come out to about the same price anyway. BUT, you have the option of stopping the repairs at that point.

 

scary.....

 

I just changed the oil
and there isnt any anti freeze in the oil

but i dont get like when i accelerate.. it makes the noise and when i decelerate it also makes it

??

 

A timing chain that has slipped a tooth will NOT be the same thing as a blown headgasket or a cracked block or head. You won't see oil in the antifreeze or visa-versa.

 

re read the top ...
the 1st one

i never stated there is a haed gasket thats bad
if there was.. it would leak oil

but the guy said the coolant was in the oil in the motor
and that makes perfect sense

and if the timimg chain was off. .

would it start?

my car still has the same power
so theres no power loss

this really is kinda wierd

-Brian

 

this is the list that guy printed

decription on top
amount on bottom

gasket
8.66

reman kit
271.17

gasket
7.23

cover- ti
270.65

filter asy
4.30

motor oil
8.75

anti- freeze replacing
42.00

after tax
grand total of 649.53
for parts

-Brian

 

Not necessarily

May have been condensation

It could still start. BUT, as I said in post #3, if you feel uncomfortable with the shops diagnosis, you do have 2 options.
When I rebuilt my 302 in my 70 stang, I was off by 1 tooth when I put the timing components in. Yes it ran, and ran great! But it pinged to high hell when I got on it. Needless to say, I figured it out and reinstalled the timing components correctly.