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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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i was just lookin around the ford website looking for other cars using the 4.0 to see if there was a possible cheap head swap option for some extra POWAH! and i saw that the sport trac uses the 4.0 with exactly the same specs, but is rated at 257 ft lbs....? is that from a different tune do you think? The hp is exactly the same 210 at peak...anyone know?

edit: i just noticed it's the same deal with the explorer. someone detuned to keep gt sales up [&:]
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 01:05 AM
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HmmI just check it out...interesting...I looked at the explorer engine and the intake mani looks different along with a few other things.
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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257 ft-lbs at what RPM? Is the Mustang tuned and designed to build max torque at lower RPM?
Old Dec 23, 2006 | 02:09 AM
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mustang makes peak torque (240) at 3500...the sport trac makes 257 at 3700....do you think they just rated it at a different point or really did limit it a bit?
Old Dec 23, 2006 | 02:48 AM
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ehhh....would make sense from a marketing standpoint to keep GT sales up by slightly detuning the 4.0 stang. It's also probably cheaper for them to make. Looks like Ford knows what they're doin lol.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 03:06 AM
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does anyone know where a stock dyno for an 05+ sport trac can be found? this is bothering me. Either the 4.0 in the stang is detuned stock and that;s why we can gain so much with bolt ons, or we are udnerrated stock...if the ratings were at the same rpm or very different rpm's for peak numbers i wouldn't think about this so much, but 200 rpm difference...?
Old Dec 24, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Maybe not just a different tune but cam's as well. You never know different head design.
Old Dec 24, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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it may have to do with something for more torque for the trucks? maybe

all i know is that like in mercedes the (55 amg) engine has differnet horse in each car (maybe just a function of smaller mods on each)
Old Dec 24, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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they have different computer controls
ours is eev-v
and the sport trac is eec-v with intergrated edis
Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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does anyone know where a stock dyno for an 05+ sport trac can be found? this is bothering me. Either the 4.0 in the stang is detuned stock and that;s why we can gain so much with bolt ons, or we are udnerrated stock...if the ratings were at the same rpm or very different rpm's for peak numbers i wouldn't think about this so much, but 200 rpm difference...?
I belive theSport Trac runs a different exhaust, intake and tunevs the Mustang anditsmost likelythetune is the main reason, the LR is also is rated higher at 269 lb ft. Remember these are (awd ) trucks so mostly Ford imo wanted them tuned for more torque and sacafice onthe other end.

B.amachips alsohas a torque tunewhich gives you more torque down low but you sacafice on the other end of the rpm range vs his other (performancw & race)tunesI tried his the torque tune nice butI perfer his race tune any day becuase of its betterperformance thought out the rpm range.

I would also like to see a real dyno (data)on these trucks so we can see it and look at the whole rpm range compared to a Mutang tune.



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