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Old May 27, 2010 | 08:40 AM
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Hey guys I understand our cars come with a negative camber from the factory and the only way to adjust it is by buying caster camber plates... Well I just got new tires and my old tires were worn down bald on the insides from being on the front of the car. I had them on there for 39k miles, so they had good life. Well I dont want the same thing to happen to these tires being they are softer compound, Im going to buy caster camber plates. I didnt know if this about the right negative camber that comes stock but it looks a little dramatic. What do you think?


The tires are 255/45/18 if that makes a difference.

Anyone else got pictures like this for comparison?

No the car isnt lowered or any other suspension mods.

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Old May 27, 2010 | 10:11 AM
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Dunno, you lowered?
You can search or get camber bolts.
The castor is OK from the factory and lowering does not affect OEM caster.
Now Camber and TOE are a whole different story?
Do you have bump steer kits if lowered?

Nothing looks out of place in the picture.
Thats the proper angle as measured with the naked eye on a 100x100 low res picture...
Old May 27, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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No DB It says in the post that its not lowered lol.


Well if its normal I guess its fine until I get caster/camber plates.

Sorry I dont have a 20MP Camera, I took that picture with my phone.
Old May 27, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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If its not lowered, you dont need the plates.
You need your frame straightened.
I have 255/45-18s and they wear straight
across with the OEM caster/camber settings
(they are not adjustable persay like vehicles of the past).
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Old May 27, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 157db
If its not lowered, you dont need the plates.
You need your frame straightened.
I have 255/45-18s and they wear straight
across with the OEM caster/camber settings
(they are not adjustable persay like vehicles of the past).
Even with the bit of negative camber out cars have?

Lol straighten the frame huh?
Old May 27, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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Park the car on a flat surface. Use a digital leveal, and see what the angle of the tire is. It should be about 0.5*. Any more than that, and you'll get the wear you describe. Also, too much toe in can cause a similar wear pattern. Toe is easily adjusted.
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Originally Posted by .boB
Park the car on a flat surface. Use a digital leveal, and see what the angle of the tire is. It should be about 0.5*. Any more than that, and you'll get the wear you describe. Also, too much toe in can cause a similar wear pattern. Toe is easily adjusted.
Where exactly do I put the digital leveler at to measure the camber? I dont think the car has ever been aligned, should I try that?
Old May 27, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Lay it on the tire sidewall, towards the front or the back. You need to avoid the bulge at the bottom. It's not incredibly accurate, but should give you a good ball park figure.

If your tires are wearing unevenly in the front, a front end check for loose, worn, broken parts should be the firs tstep Assuming that's all OK, then an alignment is the next step.
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On the rim edge.
Not the tire sidewall...
And make sure the wheels are pointed
100% straight on or the levels readings
will not be accurate.

I have the same camber all the other non-wrecked S197s have.
Its impossable to change the camber unless you
do it hitting a curb just a little too hard. Or slot
the lower two spindle mounting holes on the strut...
Or use aftermarket offset camber bolts...
Old May 27, 2010 | 09:41 PM
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I leveled out the car and measured the offset from plumb for the top of the rim.

Did a little trigonometry and got my camber angles.






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