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Old 02-15-2012, 01:01 PM   #21
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I love the supercharger!!! Power when you need it...but should I do anything to help keep the tires on the road? Tires spin in 1st too easy...shifting into 2and the rear end still want to break free (of course I am getting on the gas too) Any mods to keep the rear end straight or should I just get used to it?
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:26 PM   #22
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I love the supercharger!!! Power when you need it...but should I do anything to help keep the tires on the road? Tires spin in 1st too easy...shifting into 2and the rear end still want to break free (of course I am getting on the gas too) Any mods to keep the rear end straight or should I just get used to it?
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what kind are on it right now?
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:03 PM   #23
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Stickier tires. And, easy on the supercharger until you get used to it. Don't want to see you wrap your car around a tree.

If you want to see what it does when it breaks loose, go to an empty parking lot (with no islands, light poles, etc.) and try it. Not fun when it happens on a public road.
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Stickier tires. And, easy on the supercharger until you get used to it. Don't want to see you wrap your car around a tree.

If you want to see what it does when it breaks loose, go to an empty parking lot (with no islands, light poles, etc.) and try it. Not fun when it happens on a public road.

Very good point. You get into boost during a turn and you could be doing donuts before you realize whats up.

Congrats on getting it done. Feels good to do it yourself.

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Old 02-16-2012, 07:21 AM   #25
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I love the supercharger!!! Power when you need it...but should I do anything to help keep the tires on the road? Tires spin in 1st too easy...shifting into 2and the rear end still want to break free (of course I am getting on the gas too) Any mods to keep the rear end straight or should I just get used to it?
haha! Something they don't really tell you Sticky tires are going to help, but it wont eliminate it completely. You're going to have to learn some new skills driving the car. Learning to drive in the ice and snow I believe gave me an advantage but it's not exactly the same.

I've put mine sideways several times, all deliberately, like a g-d Steve McQueen flick and it's awesome man...yesterday I was taking a couple guys at work to lunch with me and was doing some crazy stuff and I looked in the rear view. The guy in the backseat looked like he was going to get sick and was scared s-less. It was only after we got to the restaurant that he said its his birthday, so on the way back I had to promise not to kill him on his day of days. So on the way back to the office instead of putting it sideways I ripped up into the triple digits. He turned white.

Have fun with it, but be really careful. It's a whole new realm of wheel, brake and throttle control that will make you a better driver.
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I have the stock tires (BF Goodrich 235/50 zr18) on stock rims. What would be a "stickier" tire and what size is best? I would like to keep the stock rims if possible.
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drag radials would be good for straight line but kind of compromise handling, other tires like

bridgestone potenza re-11
dunlop direzza z1 star spec

^ Both of these would be better in straight line traction compared to what you have currently, depending on the temperature you drive in, these are summer only tires. They will also be a ton better in the corners.

Michelin pilot supersports
eagle f1 gsd3
Continental ExtremeContact DW

These 3 will be great and probably last longer than the above 2, mabe slightly less performance but more mileage.

These are all pretty expensive but probably worth it. I see you are in NJ though, so not sure if any of these will be a viable option for you. Move to florida. Doubt any tires will get great traction in weather below 50 or 40
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Thanks for the tire recommendation. What sizes are best and should I keep the stock rims?

I called TireRack and the continetal tires are pretty reasonable. I may just have fun with what I have and get new tires in a couple of months

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I have the stock tires (BF Goodrich 235/50 zr18) on stock rims. What would be a "stickier" tire and what size is best? I would like to keep the stock rims if possible.
People keep mentioning stickier, nobody saying wider. More rubber = more grip. I run 285 rear on 10.5" wide wheels. 8" is not enough for a car with 400+ hp.
With 285 wide 18" tires, you can really only find sticky summer performance tires, at least on tire rack. I got some Yokohama ADVAN's and they rock.

x2 about stepping on it through turns. I love to slide a little around a turn in 1st, its fairly easy to control since i'm only going 10-20mph, but be careful in 2nd since you will be going 30-40mph, and if you lose control its harder to gain it back. Watching those D1 drift events helps you understand how sliding works, its FUN AS HELL.
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:42 AM   #30
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Stupid question...Do you guys drive with the TCS on or off?
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Off at all times. What does the TC do when you lose traction? It cuts fuel. What happens when you go lean in FI motor? You go boom. Turn that **** off everytime you drive and learn to control wheel spin with your right foot.

I think 255 is about as wide a tire you can put on a stock rim. You may need to consider some new rims. I am running 285s and cant imagine running the stockers./.......slippery man.
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TCS off! Make it a habit. Every time you start up.
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Off at all times. What does the TC do when you lose traction? It cuts fuel. What happens when you go lean in FI motor? You go boom. Turn that **** off everytime you drive and learn to control wheel spin with your right foot.

I think 255 is about as wide a tire you can put on a stock rim. You may need to consider some new rims. I am running 285s and cant imagine running the stockers./.......slippery man.
x2. Get some 10-11" wide rear, and some 9-9.5 inch front. You'll be much more planted, especially with some good summer tires.

Oh and I drove my s/c stang for 3 months before I started turning off TCS... I just never thought about that. Glad it's all okay, maybe its a lot more harmful if you're running like 10 lbs, 500hp, etc.
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Off at all times. What does the TC do when you lose traction? It cuts fuel. What happens when you go lean in FI motor? You go boom. Turn that **** off everytime you drive and learn to control wheel spin with your right foot.

I think 255 is about as wide a tire you can put on a stock rim. You may need to consider some new rims. I am running 285s and cant imagine running the stockers./.......slippery man.
Pretty sure the TC cutting fuel goes boom theory is a myth. If it wasn't most factory FI cars would blow up. I even tuned one of my cars to cut fuel if I hit a certain psi as a fail "SAFE". And having boost creep I got to know fuel cut off a lot and no boom. Of course no fuel equals lean, you car goes to lean when you get off the gas too.

I definately have not seen a post where someone went boom from driving with the TC on. LOL
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i have alwasy been told to keep it off on these cars when you have a supercharger, this is because to take power away from the cars tires it will lean out your tune apply the brakes and whatever other voodoo magic ford put in there , so you dont want to lean out while running boost, i think i have kenne bell article on it somewhere
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Driving around with a ford stock tune in a stock FI Ford vehicle your probably safe with the TC on. If your car is loaded up with after market parts and an after market tune turn that **** off. Running WOT whether at the track or on the street you want the TC off. Its common knowledge with FI at WOT you dont ever want to go lean. Why risk it? For me, I turn it off every time I drive just like I put on my seat belt every time I drive my car.
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Driving around with a ford stock tune in a stock FI Ford vehicle your probably safe with the TC on. If your car is loaded up with after market parts and an after market tune turn that **** off. Running WOT whether at the track or on the street you want the TC off. Its common knowledge with FI at WOT you dont ever want to go lean. Why risk it? For me, I turn it off every time I drive just like I put on my seat belt every time I drive my car.
There is nothing different from a factory tune to a custom one as far as the TC is concerned, and loading it up with aftermarket parts have no effects either. It is the same thing as going WOT, getting off the throttle and back to WOT.

I almost always have mine in Sport Mode and always turn it off on the dyno or at the track. But it doesn't work the way you are stating it does.
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Factory FI tunes are notoriously rich ie conservative. After market tunes tend to push the limits, lean it out and make more power. Which is fine except when you get into a "lean" situation and starve the motor of fuel. As far as TC is concerned, it works the same with whichever tune is loaded in. Your N/A setup does not have the same risks as a FI setup. If you were FI the last thing you want to encourage is a lean condition.
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off topic a lil does anyone know a place where i can get a good deal on a m90
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Check out fnsweet.com That is a Roush specific site where I have seen used m90s come up for sale. You can also check JDM. They are a Roush dealer and I have seen them put used ones up for sale as well. Buying a new one for a deal. Hard to find. Maybe try Gary Yeoman Ford.
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