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New Wheels, New Tires (Beaten to Death but I Need Help)

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Old 12-26-2013, 02:07 PM   #1
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Aight guys, as some of you might know I jacked my car up pretty good on a curb. Regardless of this I need to get new front tires because my strut mounts fell apart again (just ordered Steeda HDs), and my brand new rear driver got messed up from the collision so I'l just going to say the hell with it and get a whole new set and keep the one good rear one as a backup.

The drivers rims are trashed, so I'm thinking about swapping out my Lorenzo WL28s for some XXR 535s (opinions?)

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Anyways, I'm running a staggered set up right now (245/40/18 Front and 285/35/18 Rear), but I think I want to go 285 all the way around. My question is is it worth it?
My front rims are too narrow to fit those now, but before I go all out and order all this I wanted to hear some opinions on what I should stick with. This car is daily driven and I don't need to have it handling like a race car, but if I will get a significant amount of understeer reduced and have to ability to rotate my tires I think it would be worth it, even though I'll lose the staggered look.

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Old 12-26-2013, 02:56 PM   #2
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I like the Lorenzos better personally but only because the XXR's look a little plain. However your ride alreadyseem to have a fair amount of bling so maybe that will look good that way. Either way you can't go wrong.
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Old 12-26-2013, 05:19 PM   #3
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Yeah the car came with the Lorenzos, wouldn't have been my first choice but I have no complaints with them. If I got the XXRs I would get some polished extended lugs to accentuate them a little better.

What about tire setup though, do you think making the jump to 285s all around would be worth it?
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I like the Lorenzos better personally but only because the XXR's look a little plain. However your ride alreadyseem to have a fair amount of bling so maybe that will look good that way. Either way you can't go wrong.
Haha, I like XXR for the opposite reason, to me the Lorenzos look busy.

Either one will look good however and compliment the white nicely.
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Yeah the car came with the Lorenzos, wouldn't have been my first choice but I have no complaints with them. If I got the XXRs I would get some polished extended lugs to accentuate them a little better. What about tire setup though, do you think making the jump to 285s all around would be worth it?
I'm pretty sure 285's up front will not fit without modifications/rubbing. If I'm correct, 255 or 265s are the best maximum fit in the front.
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You can run a 285 tire on a 9.5 or 10" wide wheel. Putting big wheels on all 4 corners is all about nailing the offsets. An 18x10 with a +42 offset should fit all around.
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You can run a 285 tire on a 9.5 or 10" wide wheel. Putting big wheels on all 4 corners is all about nailing the offsets. An 18x10 with a +42 offset should fit all around.
Why such a high offset? I'm a big fan of the deep dish look so I was really looking at no offset or maybe even a little negative.

Also my friend has a Dan Gurney Saleen with 285s all around out the door, but if I remember correctly Saleen literally swaps EVERYTHING out so maybe he's got some extra clearance down there?
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Why such a high offset? I'm a big fan of the deep dish look so I was really looking at no offset or maybe even a little negative.

Also my friend has a Dan Gurney Saleen with 285s all around out the door, but if I remember correctly Saleen literally swaps EVERYTHING out so maybe he's got some extra clearance down there?
My S281 E has 275s on all corners with no issues of rubbing, even on the extreme I don't think Saleen modified the wheel well in terms of allowing for wider rubber.

If you increase the wheel width, without increasing the offset, you are going to end up with rims sticking out of the wheel wells. Something int he neighborhood of +42 on a 10 inch rim will keep them quite flush with the fender.
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I actually just looking at buying the S197 Saleen wheels that AM has.

I was just considering how sick I am of the wheel well gaps and that I'd love to mount some 18x10's with 285's all the way around. Looking at a 1.5 inch drop all the way around and I can only imagine that an offset would be needed.

Wouldn't some spacers fix this?

Will they fit says it would be 4.1 mm closer on the insider and 31.4mm further out on the outside.
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I tend to stay away from spacers, but regardless on a lower car if you had spacers they wouldn't clear the quarter panels, you'd have to roll the fender.
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You can run a 285 tire on a 9.5 or 10" wide wheel. Putting big wheels on all 4 corners is all about nailing the offsets. An 18x10 with a +42 offset should fit all around.
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Why such a high offset? I'm a big fan of the deep dish look so I was really looking at no offset or maybe even a little negative.
Won't work. Zero offset will put even the wheel over an inch outside the fenders. Hit a good bump, or lower the car and hit much of any bump at all and the tire tread will be into the sheetmetal.


Here's what 255/45's on 18 x 9.5 x +45offset wheels looks like. There's about 3/4" more room before it's not under the fenders any more.
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Here's about where the wheel will end up with zero or negative offset and enough wheel width for 285/xx-18 tires. Your 285/xx tire would already be in the sheetmetal because it won't be stretched like this moron stretched his little tire out to. The tire would be into the metal no matter how wide or narrow the wheels might be.
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The thumbnail picture shows the difference when you overlay a zero offset 18x10 with 285/35's over 18x9.5x+45 with 255/45's. When you click on it you'll be able to read how much further your numbers put it. Over 2" further out than the tire and wheel combination that Ford used for the 18" GT500 front tires.


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Thanks Norm, I think I understand it now. So what offset would you recommend?
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No more than about +42 or +43 for 18 x 10's else strut side rub likely, less than about +36 will risk fender contact


The 18 x 10.5 Enkei PF01's may just barely be able to wear 285/35's and still fit the tread under the fenders all around without spacers or rubbing (the outermost sidewall point may be just barely outside) I think Tire Rack lists these wheels at +38 offset as an optional rear fitment only because it is so close. Running the comparison numbers puts this combination so close it's a little risky even for me, and I've worked wheel widths and offsets to within 1/16" of hard wheel interference before. Sam Strano sells these Enkeis as a kit of 4 with a couple of 5mm spacers for a reason, and I won't even attempt to guarantee anybody a no-spacer fit.


The thumbnail shows 285/35 on 10.5" wide Enkeis will eat up almost 1/4" more inside room vs the GT500 tire&wheel setup (that only has about 3/8" tire to strut clearance).


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I like the XXR rims.
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Sorry to revive this but I'm getting close to buying these. I think I want to run 285s all around on the XXR 535 10.25 with a +20 offset. The only thing I'm still concerned about is the offset. I'm already running +20 offset in the rear I'm just afraid of rubbage in the front. Has anyone ran 20s in the front before?
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if your getting new rims, go with atleast 9.5 wide front 10.5 rear imo
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I don't see how they are going to fit but I did see a thread with a mustang who put them on. He never mentioned whether he rubbed or not but he did say he auto crossed which would definitely let us know if it was going to rub) but don't know if he did yet. I don't have an account there but he's over at modded mustang so ask him as it's been a few months since he put them on.

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Not too sure about the quality of XXR but they look good.
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I don't see how they are going to fit but I did see a thread with a mustang who put them on. He never mentioned whether he rubbed or not but he did say he auto crossed which would definitely let us know if it was going to rub) but don't know if he did yet. I don't have an account there but he's over at modded mustang so ask him as it's been a few months since he put them on.

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Not too sure about the quality of XXR but they look good.
Yeah I saw this guys too. He apparently has gone through a lot of rims, maybe his fenders were rolled or something I'm not sure.
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I just looked at this picture really closely, with 275s on a 20mm offset the wheel definitely seems so stick out. Looks like I'm going to have to get these staggered, hopefully it looks good with these rims.
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With a +20 you will stick out. Period. Unless you are low enough to pull it off its gonna look kinda odd.

Will it fit you ask? Sure all day everyday.

ANd i dont know why people have always been afraid of putting a big tire up front there is LOADS of room to squeeze things in!
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