Okay, NOW we have a serious problem
01-08-2010, 12:17 AM
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Okay, NOW we have a serious problem
1. I was driving home today and thought I'd get happy in second gear. I downshifted into second gear and punched it, the car moved a little bit and the RPMs rose, then the car revved and no momentum was put out, it was like it slipped into neutral, WTF, it has been doing this recently in 3rd gear too.
2. So after that little ordeal, I put the car into second once again firmly, and punched it yet again and the entire back end slipped out incredibly almost into a guard rail to the right. I let off the gas and put it into 3rd gear.. WTF? I was going about 30mph and the back end just KICKED OUT. It snowed about 2 days ago... but the roads are black.. it's still cold out, but do the roads really have anything to do with it?
2. So after that little ordeal, I put the car into second once again firmly, and punched it yet again and the entire back end slipped out incredibly almost into a guard rail to the right. I let off the gas and put it into 3rd gear.. WTF? I was going about 30mph and the back end just KICKED OUT. It snowed about 2 days ago... but the roads are black.. it's still cold out, but do the roads really have anything to do with it?
01-08-2010, 12:35 AM
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so what is your question? Why does your back end come out when you punch it in second gear and it is cold and wet outside?
Im confused. You are aware of traction correct? haha (really no offense, i am confused what the problem is)
cold weather(or cold tires)/wet/cold road/probally wet == no traction when flooring in low gears
Im confused. You are aware of traction correct? haha (really no offense, i am confused what the problem is)
cold weather(or cold tires)/wet/cold road/probally wet == no traction when flooring in low gears
01-08-2010, 06:56 AM
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1. If the engine revs and you have no momentum and the tires are not spinning then you probably have a bad clutch.
2. Yes the roads and cold weather have a lot to do with the tires spinning. Ice can form on roads that look perfectly clean. Trucker call this black ice. What kind of tires are you running?
01-08-2010, 08:43 AM
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You probably burned up your clutch when you where taking off in 4th to go up a hill like your other post said you did.
A little friendly advise Keep the theatrics out of your posts and you wont confuse people at what your trying to ask or post. Get straight to the point nobody cares about your little side stories that don't have anything to do with your problem. That's what Facebook and Myspace are for
A little friendly advise Keep the theatrics out of your posts and you wont confuse people at what your trying to ask or post. Get straight to the point nobody cares about your little side stories that don't have anything to do with your problem. That's what Facebook and Myspace are for
01-08-2010, 09:15 AM
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Crap!! I burned out my clutch you think just by doing that the other night in the snow?!?! Dang!! My clutch is only 12,000 miles old and has been mostly babied!! You can really mess up your clutch with just one run?? It doesnt slip though?? I have been on the highway in 5th at 2,000 RPMs, punched it, and it didn't rev.
01-08-2010, 10:03 AM
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This quote is from your other thread.
That smell was most likely you burning up your clutch. It doesn't smell exactly like burning rubber but its close. Its a distinct smell and once you've smelled it you really don't forget. Since you say you clutch is only 12,000 miles old you may not have burnt it out completely. It might just need adjusting. Put your toe under the clutch pedal and lift it all the way up a couple of times to see if it will adjust itself back in.
The other problem with burning you're clutch like that is that it varnishes the flywheel. But you can't do anything about that unless you pull the transmission.
I had to drive home... and my road where my house is is a big hill. Like a champ, I made it to the top... however, my car has no sandbags in the back and it was very difficult. I STARTED MOVING IN 4TH GEAR multiple times, then quickly shifted into 3rd once I got traction, then 2nd etc.. I did this quite a few times, and my car was "going 40mph" when I was really only going abouty 3mph up the hill, if that. I kept the RPMs no higher than 3k on a fully warm engine.
I'm just wondering... what exactly is happening to your transmission when you are doing that? Does it think you are really driving that fast? Because when I got out of my car I smelled a burning rubber kind of smell.
It lasted about 1/2 a minute then went away. Is this because I was going too slow for 4th gear?
I'm just wondering... what exactly is happening to your transmission when you are doing that? Does it think you are really driving that fast? Because when I got out of my car I smelled a burning rubber kind of smell.
It lasted about 1/2 a minute then went away. Is this because I was going too slow for 4th gear?The other problem with burning you're clutch like that is that it varnishes the flywheel. But you can't do anything about that unless you pull the transmission.
01-08-2010, 11:02 AM
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im guessing you are losing traction due to the cold roads/tires and/or black ice...doesnt sound like a clutch issue to me....and a little clutch smoke on a new clutch is not gonna kill it....hell i smoked mine so bad one day i had to evacuate my car lol...i was being an idiot that day though....but the entire car filled with smoke and didnt air out for 5 whole minutes, it glazed over and smelled kinda bad for a few days of normal use, then it went back to normal....OP, i wouldnt worry about it...just drive with a little more sense because its winter time, or else youre gonna hit that ice and smash your car into something
01-08-2010, 11:07 AM
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This quote is from your other thread.
That smell was most likely you burning up your clutch. It doesn't smell exactly like burning rubber but its close. Its a distinct smell and once you've smelled it you really don't forget. Since you say you clutch is only 12,000 miles old you may not have burnt it out completely. It might just need adjusting. Put your toe under the clutch pedal and lift it all the way up a couple of times to see if it will adjust itself back in.
The other problem with burning you're clutch like that is that it varnishes the flywheel. But you can't do anything about that unless you pull the transmission.
That smell was most likely you burning up your clutch. It doesn't smell exactly like burning rubber but its close. Its a distinct smell and once you've smelled it you really don't forget. Since you say you clutch is only 12,000 miles old you may not have burnt it out completely. It might just need adjusting. Put your toe under the clutch pedal and lift it all the way up a couple of times to see if it will adjust itself back in.
The other problem with burning you're clutch like that is that it varnishes the flywheel. But you can't do anything about that unless you pull the transmission.
It smells like if you were to ever cut metal with a dermal.
OP, Sounds like you need some classes on driving a stick shift haha. Never give the car gas while your clutch is engaged (generally speaking)
01-08-2010, 07:00 PM
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