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Old 11-12-2012, 09:15 PM   #1
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Default 2002 Saleen Cranks Wont Start Throwing p0193 & p1235

Posted this on Corral.net, not even a response there in 2 days.

..had the car parked and covered through hurrican sandy. No flooding here, just heavy rain/wind. Uncovered, went to start, nothing, cranks forever, battery is brand new & on a maintainer, filter was replaced 1000 miles ago.

New tune from Bama w/ PATS Turned off (again).
Not sure if I Can hear the priming of the pump w/ all the cabin chimes, how loud should it be?

Already Tried:

Disconnected the vacuum hose from the fuel rail sensor and smelled for gas but smelled clean
Disconnected Fuel Pressure Sensor & Tried Starting: No dice.
Got gas to come out of the fuel pressure release on passenger side rail..

Torque App. was reading 12 for fuel pressure when ignition turned to on (also read the codes I mentioned), now reading 0.

At this point, from what I have read, either going with:

Bad CCRM Relay in front passenger wheel well
Bad FPDM in rear quarter panel trunk
Bad Fuel Pump.

Currently I have over 1/2 tank, I know I've had the gas pretty low on numerous occasions (never ran out of gas), and I've filled it up less than half way plenty of times...signs pointing to a burnt out Fuel Pump yet???

Thanks for the help guys (and girls??)
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:30 AM   #2
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Here is what the shop manual says about P0193; and P1235.

Run the possible causes from top to bottom...
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:57 PM   #3
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Here is what the shop manual says about P0193; and P1235.

Run the possible causes from top to bottom...
Nogo on getting them open in Firefox/iE/Chrome, possible to download and pm them??
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There is nothing to download, they are links to my website--just click on them...
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:51 PM   #5
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I'm 99% sure your fuel pump is burned out, I had this happen to my car a while back and once I replaced the fuel pump, it went away.
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There is nothing to download, they are links to my website--just click on them...
Got them to work. Followed the link in your avatar thing..whatever it's called. Took me to paladinmicro.com. Links your posted take me to paladins01.com, nothing loads when I do that. VERY thorough good info man.

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I'm 99% sure your fuel pump is burned out, I had this happen to my car a while back and once I replaced the fuel pump, it went away.
Thats what I am thinking now, ordered 255lph pump, hopefully its easy to get installed..
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Got them to work. Followed the link in your avatar thing..whatever it's called. Took me to paladinmicro.com. Links your posted take me to paladins01.com, nothing loads when I do that. VERY thorough good info man.



Thats what I am thinking now, ordered 255lph pump, hopefully its easy to get installed..
My fault, I had my dev server up and running and had linked to it--they worked for me, but then again I am inside of my firewall.

Thank you for reporting back on what you found--all fixed...
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