Timspony

...I hear ya...I had Ceramic Coated Hooker Long Tube hearders on my mid-10 sec Mustang...there just a pain to work with! ...Since he already has headers & h-pipe, I'd stick with that & put my $$$ elsewhere....But that's me!

1BIGMOFO

So there is no real HP gain with going to Long tubes? For some reason i was under the impression it was like a 10hp gain over shorties.

Whats the benifit with going ceramic over not? Other than it dissapating the heat better. Is it that much of a diff?

2OO3COBRA

Lt's are EXTREMELY difficult to install with the motor still in the car. They also sit very close to the ground so you need to be careful when driving in certain areas. The gain over a set of EL is minimal. Id say maybe 5-10 at most depending on brands and the set up you have. If your looking to go big then yea the LT's will help out in the long run but if your staying small under 400 id stay with the EL's. Savve yourself the headaches and aggravation if you ever need to take them out. Good luck

94Yellow50

[QUOTE=StrongStang50;5945788]So there is no real HP gain with going to Long tubes? For some reason i was under the impression it was like a 10hp gain over shorties.

Whats the benifit with going ceramic over not? Other than it dissapating the heat better. Is it that much of a diff?[/QUOTE]

Ceramic not only dissapate the heat, but like you asked about, they look better for much longer time. Chrome will discolor and look crappy after a few heat cycles, but the ceramic can look new after a few years as long as you buy a good brand. personally i would recommend BBK for one main reason. the flange is solid instead of on each primary. So if they should ever have to come off its much easier to get them lined back up to bolt down.

Slo5oh

[QUOTE=94Yellow50;5945929]they dont dissapate heat....they contain it. The ceramic coating helps to hold the heat in the header which works a twofold function. A. keeping the heat in the exhaust helps keep up the exhaust flow. B. By keeping heat in the header you dont release as much into the engine bay so you dont do silly things like melt plug wires and such as frequently (supposing you dont lay it on the header lol)

1BIGMOFO

My car is auto and the only brand that even makes ceramic Long Tubes for my car is MAC. I plan to get he MAC long tubes and the MAC pro Chaimber tomorrow. When i bolt it up to my SLP Loudmouth II itll rumble.

Will it sound any different than my shorties and H pipe?

1BIGMOFO

Is it best to bolt the Long Tubes to the engine and sink it all in as one piece or set the Long Tubes in about where they would sit and bolt them in that way?

Slo5oh

catted h pipe?

yea it will sound different either way. If youre going from cat to no cat yea its going to be stupid loud.


lol yea i know what ya mean. You could always get an aluminum gasket and dont break things that necessisitate you taking off the exhaust, and your set

1BIGMOFO

Last question i promise:

Do the long tubes come with the O2 sensor ports? I deleted my smog pump and all affiliated hardware but my O2 sensors are still screwed in to the H pipe. Will I even need these or just order long tubes with no emmissions??

1BIGMOFO

I currently have an off road H with no cats.