3,000 Mile Oil Change?
#13
Actually a number of highly respected companies recommend a change of oil and filter every 3,000 miles or 3 months. Lets see - there's Jiffy Lube, Speedy Lube, Quik Lube and others. No conflict of interest there at all.
When they took the lead out of gas they took out one of the most damaging components there was. Changing oil every 3000 in the sixties made sense. Not any more. Leaded fuel contaminated and rotted everything. Exhaust parts lasted maybe 30,000 at best. Spark plugs, 15,000. Oil, 3000.
The only people who still want you to change your oil every 3000 miles are the people who make money when you do it.
When they took the lead out of gas they took out one of the most damaging components there was. Changing oil every 3000 in the sixties made sense. Not any more. Leaded fuel contaminated and rotted everything. Exhaust parts lasted maybe 30,000 at best. Spark plugs, 15,000. Oil, 3000.
The only people who still want you to change your oil every 3000 miles are the people who make money when you do it.
#14
Personally I think that the oil should be changed more often than many people do it. I don't know if 3000 miles is the magic number or not. I do think that the 10 or 15 thousand mile oil changes than some are talking about is not the thing to do. However, if you feel comfortable doing that then go ahead and do it that way.
I change mine every 3k or so on my daily driver F150 as well as on the Stang.
I also think that an older motor should have the oil changed often to help keep it clean.
I use conventional oil in the F150 and will be switching to Mobile 1 in the Mustang fairly soon. I'm running clean 5000 in it right now until it has a few thousand miles on its new 302.
I think the synthetic oils can last longer but there is still moisture and dirt in the air that gets in the motor.
I always recycle my oil as should everyone else.
I change mine every 3k or so on my daily driver F150 as well as on the Stang.
I also think that an older motor should have the oil changed often to help keep it clean.
I use conventional oil in the F150 and will be switching to Mobile 1 in the Mustang fairly soon. I'm running clean 5000 in it right now until it has a few thousand miles on its new 302.
I think the synthetic oils can last longer but there is still moisture and dirt in the air that gets in the motor.
I always recycle my oil as should everyone else.
#15
Actually a number of highly respected companies recommend a change of oil and filter every 3,000 miles or 3 months. Lets see - there's Jiffy Lube, Speedy Lube, Quik Lube and others. No conflict of interest there at all.
When they took the lead out of gas they took out one of the most damaging components there was. Changing oil every 3000 in the sixties made sense. Not any more. Leaded fuel contaminated and rotted everything. Exhaust parts lasted maybe 30,000 at best. Spark plugs, 15,000. Oil, 3000.
The only people who still want you to change your oil every 3000 miles are the people who make money when you do it.
When they took the lead out of gas they took out one of the most damaging components there was. Changing oil every 3000 in the sixties made sense. Not any more. Leaded fuel contaminated and rotted everything. Exhaust parts lasted maybe 30,000 at best. Spark plugs, 15,000. Oil, 3000.
The only people who still want you to change your oil every 3000 miles are the people who make money when you do it.
CP
#19
Lots of driving that fits into the "extreme service" category ("Special Operating Conditions", or whatever they call it) calls for shorter change intervals. Dusty environment, lots of idling and stop/go, trailer towing, driving off-road, lots of high-rpm activity tend to subject the additive package to disproportionate rates of use.
The '08 gives you 7500 miles under "normal" driving, which is really a poor description for driving that assumes that you fully warm the engine up for more than brief periods of time and do so on a regular basis. Lots of extreme service (SOC) drops that to 5000 miles. Use those as optomistic starting points.
One other thing with the older flat-tappet pushrod engines - the zinc and other extreme pressure additives are not nearly as concentrated as they used to be. I can't say for sure that this means you should be changing the oil at relatively short intervals in these engines --- but I wouldn't want to chance it by pushing it too much unless you know for absolute fact that your specific oil choice has sufficiently strong EP content.
Norm
The '08 gives you 7500 miles under "normal" driving, which is really a poor description for driving that assumes that you fully warm the engine up for more than brief periods of time and do so on a regular basis. Lots of extreme service (SOC) drops that to 5000 miles. Use those as optomistic starting points.
One other thing with the older flat-tappet pushrod engines - the zinc and other extreme pressure additives are not nearly as concentrated as they used to be. I can't say for sure that this means you should be changing the oil at relatively short intervals in these engines --- but I wouldn't want to chance it by pushing it too much unless you know for absolute fact that your specific oil choice has sufficiently strong EP content.
Norm
Last edited by Norm Peterson; 07-06-2009 at 06:31 PM.
#20
My first vehicle I changed the oil at about 1,500 miles, by my 4th or 5th (the 90 mentioned earlier) I had decided that it might be cheaper to NOT change the oil and put in a new engine at 100,000 miles,,, well I broke and changed it at 87,000 miles, then every 10,000 or 20,000 thereafter.
Since then I have evened up a bit and change the oil about every 8,000 to 12,000 miles.
Frankly, the ones I have taken care of last about the same as the ones I don't, 200,000 miles give or take a little... (most become "company vehicles" after about 100,000... )
All of mine end up in "extreme duty"... and to boot, I drove the living **** out of that 90.... Lots and lots of hard fast trips...
Since then I have evened up a bit and change the oil about every 8,000 to 12,000 miles.
Frankly, the ones I have taken care of last about the same as the ones I don't, 200,000 miles give or take a little... (most become "company vehicles" after about 100,000... )
All of mine end up in "extreme duty"... and to boot, I drove the living **** out of that 90.... Lots and lots of hard fast trips...
Last edited by JMD; 07-06-2009 at 07:51 PM.
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