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yeah i got them out, they were definetly mushroom. i found a lifter slide hammer in my tool box. must have been my dads or something cuz i never knew i had it.
When I tore apart of my 79 351w i had to "push" them out through the case. I tried the plier trick but ended up resorting to a hammer and a center punch. Good thing I wasn't going to reuse them though.
Usually built-up oil lacquer makes them stick in the bores. If they were truly mushroomed, you'll have damaged the lifter bores by forcing them out the top. In such cases, you should invert the engine, remove the cam, and push the lifters out the bottom.
so i got most the lifters out, a few are stuck in there. i was able to pull the cam out because the few that are stuck are lifted high enough. should i punch them out from the top? and then hope they fall into the pan?
btw i havent pulled the engine yet its still in the car