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Old 01-13-2010, 12:36 PM   #1
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Default Different TPMS Sensors for 2010 Mustangs..

Well, it seems that our friends at Ford have had a change of heart here. For those who are interested,the 2010 Mustangs now have a Valve Stem sensor (similar to GM) and not the Band-Sensor Combination that was found on the 2005-2009 models. And apparently, the band-sensor combo will not work on the 2010"s.
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what I heard too. Should be eaiser to move the sensors to new wheels that way. But I wonder what happens when the valve stems need to be replaced. I have had them rot and leak. So next time that happens, instead of replacing a cheap stem, we get to replace expensive ones.
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Well, it seems that our friends at Ford have had a change of heart here. For those who are interested,the 2010 Mustangs now have a Valve Stem sensor (similar to GM) and not the Band-Sensor Combination that was found on the 2005-2009 models. And apparently, the band-sensor combo will not work on the 2010"s.
Why wouldn't they work? Different frequency or signal? The band ones were just a radio transmitter. I don't know what the stem ones are like. You certain they can't be programmed?
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Why wouldn't they work? Different frequency or signal? The band ones were just a radio transmitter. I don't know what the stem ones are like. You certain they can't be programmed?
Well chronos...Apparently not. I sold my four new mounted winter tires with Ford bands and sensors to a guy with a 2010 GT. His Ford Dealer says that they can not be reprogramed to the 2010 car. Technically, I'm not sure why at this point (???). Maybe one of our brothers here can help us understand the difference.
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what I heard too. Should be eaiser to move the sensors to new wheels that way. But I wonder what happens when the valve stems need to be replaced. I have had them rot and leak. So next time that happens, instead of replacing a cheap stem, we get to replace expensive ones.
The valve stems come apart at the important places. The seal on the inside of the rim, valve stem core, and valve cap are replaced when tires get changed.
Only time the whole thing would need to be replaced is if it fails.
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what I heard too. Should be eaiser to move the sensors to new wheels that way. But I wonder what happens when the valve stems need to be replaced. I have had them rot and leak. So next time that happens, instead of replacing a cheap stem, we get to replace expensive ones.
They are metal and metal does not rot, it rusts.
They are made from stainless steel so they dont rust either.
The valve cores are the only rubber item.
They are easily replaced in seconds.

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Why wouldn't they work? Different frequency or signal? The band ones were just a radio transmitter. I don't know what the stem ones are like. You certain they can't be programmed?
The signal is 420MHz as mandated by the FCC.
All air sensors systems in the US run on 420MHz.
Its the digital coded signal thats different.
A simple scanner with a discriminator output
and a digital capture Oscope shows this to be true.
The S197s spit out an 8 bit and the new sensors
have a 16 bit digital signature.
Evidently they ran out of available numbers with
only 8 bits of info to work with.
2 to the 8th power plus 1.
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The signal is 420MHz as mandated by the FCC.
All air sensors systems in the US run on 420MHz.
Its the digital coded signal thats different.
A simple scanner with a discriminator output
and a digital capture Oscope shows this to be true.
The S197s spit out an 8 bit and the new sensors
have a 16 bit digital signature.
Evidently they ran out of available numbers with
only 8 bits of info to work with.
2 to the 8th power plus 1.
This is so annoying. It's the same as computers keep going up from 16, to 32, now 64. It's great for manufacturers since they have an endless market to keep flooding with new products that are not backward compatible, but it's bad for consumers that constantly have to keep spending money on new stuff. Our wallets are not bottomless pits full of funds.

It wouldn't surprise me if a smart entrepreneur comes up with some inexpensive module to make the old sensors talk to the new ones or visa versa.
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well, there is the air-aware "ez-sensor", which is programmable prior to installation, supposedly.

http://www.ez-sensor.com/
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well, there is the air-aware "ez-sensor", which is programmable prior to installation, supposedly.

http://www.ez-sensor.com/
It just does not look durable with the traditional rubber mounting system.
The rubber rots over time and then where are you?
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Strangely enough, I put on new wheels with out TPMS sensors, and have no alarms, go figure!
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