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Old 12-20-2009, 12:44 AM
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i wouldnt mind a high revving small displacement v8-v10-v12 would be a nice change of pace for american cars
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:57 AM
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You don't need a huge engine to make gobs of go. Think Italian and German......
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bigstick
more displacement generally means more torque.

more torque generally means faster quarter miles times.

Horsepower does not to win races. Torque does.
Ummm, torque wins road races.

HP is what wins drag races, at least it does if your tranny and axle gearing is anywhere near right for the rest of your combination. The simple formulas used to estimate quarter mile performance all work from power and weight.


Ford only needs to build a car that is competitive in its market segment, not one that absolutely dominates every possible aspect relative to the competition. I'm thinking beyond the various performance numbers here - not everybody buys these cars only for the engine.


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Old 12-20-2009, 04:05 PM
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4.6 (too small) 5.0 ( getting close) 5.8(351ci)=what we need!!!!
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Old 12-20-2009, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by foolio2k4
Sure but smaller displacement engines can still blow everything away. AMS EVO pushing 1000+ HP. Supra 6 cyl pushing past 1000 HP.

I rarely see mustangs doing that.
I rarely see any car doing that. With enough time and money you can make anything fast.
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Old 12-20-2009, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 1morepart
4.6 (too small) 5.0 ( getting close) 5.8(351ci)=what we need!!!!
Yea, 5.8 would be nice as long as it keeps the 4-cam 32-valve heads (475 bhp n/a). OHVs suck!
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Old 12-20-2009, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson
Ummm, torque wins road races.

HP is what wins drag races, at least it does if your tranny and axle gearing is anywhere near right for the rest of your combination. The simple formulas used to estimate quarter mile performance all work from power and weight.

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The BMW M3 doesn't do too bad on road courses with it's puny 414 hp 4.0 liter 4-cam 32-valve V8 making only 290 ft lbs of torque!
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Old 12-20-2009, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FastDEW
The Mustang is smaller and lighter. Why does it need a bigger engine? Besides it already blows everybody away. The "little" 4.6 is faster than the Hemi Challenger and almost matches the 6.2L in the Camaro because of the weight difference.

Now with the new 5.0 the Camaro boys will be shaking in their boots.
+1.. people get stuck on HP without looking at actual performance.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:18 PM
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sure if u wanna push into 8s in the 1/4, bigger is better...on the road though I'd say ford got it right for next year puttin the 5.0 back on the market! you don't need bigger for red light to red light runs...put some 4.10s or 4.30 gears in there
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:40 PM
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I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but just about the most fun I've had in a car was in a Honda S2000 and a twisty open road. It's just a little 4 banger, but the micro light weight and some really superior engineering gives it a 5.6 sec. 0-60 time. Sure wails like a banshee tho! I finally decided not to get one because I just didn't think I could handle the whine as a daily driver. Muscle car drivers get obsessed with hp numbers. IMHO, what makes a driver's car is the weight/hp/torque ratio, smooth acceleration, balance, handling, and some other intangibles.
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