04ShakinSteed

Is that a good answer for ya?

Lucko247

i dont want to sound rude or sound like a know everything because i only wish i did, but whos going to see the x or h pipe but in the same way whos going to see the headers i want a mod that will give me great increase of power and also noise im not an adult with tons of money so i have to limit myself to one thing at a time so heres another question what will give me better power and more noise i need to show up all those hondas out there and my magnaflow just wont cut it for everything

mmoto68

get the x pipe (or h pipe since they're cheaper)

you'll hear/feel a bigger difference than getting headers with the stock cats

if you're worried about being legal, in CA your car needs to have over 50K miles before you can legally change the cats (unless they're defective, in which case I don't see how they'd know). i guess that would only apply if you took it to a shop though.

04ShakinSteed

The Magnaflow catted X-pipe will be cheaper, I got mine for $365 shipped. The headers are a nice mod but do other mods before you do the headers. Beside, expensive to install and you don't need them right now anyway. The catted X, you could do yourself.

Shortie headers will give you about 5-6 HP over stock. Magnaflow Catted X will give you about 8hp over your factory double cats and are a simple bolt on.

jeep45238

Definately the X pipe if you've only got that much dough.

By the way, header's aren't expensive to install at all, just remember righty tighty lefty loosey.

04ShakinSteed

jeep, they look straightforward but I heard other members saying they were a "pain in the..." You have to weld them also, to the midpipe, right?

jeep45238

I helped install longtubes in a '92 5.0 my freshman year, those were a pain due to the insanely tight fit of them(floor jack and wood comes in handy to sa the least). I arrived late to the install of midlengths on the same dude's '00 4.6 (he sold the 5.0) last year, but going form the pictures, it's not too bad if you can get it even say, a foot off the ground.

As for welding, I honeslty can't remember.

04ShakinSteed

Yeah, I heard because of the tight fit and keeping them even.

I would think you would have to weld. Unless you were doing say BBK headers to a matching BBK pipe.